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Post by Jerry00 Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:50 am

Another murder In Joco of a american. Check the informador

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Post by brigitte Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:44 am

Roca Azul this time..

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Post by CheenaGringo Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:28 am

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dinformador%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3Dvjr%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dsb&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=es&u=http://www.informador.com.mx/jalisco/2014/514172/6/encuentran-a-extranjero-muerto-en-jocotepec.htm&usg=ALkJrhjW5zJlHDeJ_QB81zxIeb5OzL1t2g

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Post by Axixic Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:38 am

Not to make light of a serious subject but that translated headline caused me to do a double-take.

"Dead alien found in Jocotepec"

Yes, it makes perfect sense - but still...
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Post by espíritu del lago Fri Feb 21, 2014 7:48 am

So who is it?
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Post by brigitte Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:01 am

By the way how can you be found dead inside a club house under a trailer??

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Post by CheenaGringo Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:16 am

Caused by the Google Translation?

http://www.informador.com.mx/jalisco/2014/514172/6/encuentran-a-extranjero-muerto-en-jocotepec.htm

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Post by brigitte Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:24 am

not really. I guess it may have happened in the trailer park resort and I really do not know what it is called.but it looks strange.

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Post by espíritu del lago Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:39 am

I'm interested in who it is so when the name is released please post. TIA
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Post by elehne1 Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:45 am

espíritu del lago wrote:So who is it?


The article named the victim. John Paul, 67

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Post by Lady Otter Latté Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:02 am

Someone on TOB said "He was an alcoholic and ran with a bad crowd." That was the entire post. So much for sympathy and compassion.
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Post by CheenaGringo Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:16 am

One might want to consider the source?

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Post by espíritu del lago Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:23 am

Hmm. I must have over looked it in the article.  Thank you.
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Post by CanuckBob Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:28 am

I have split this off into its own topic.
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Post by Ricardo Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:41 am

http://www.informador.com.mx/jalisco/2014/514172/6/encuentran-a-extranjero-muerto-en-jocotepec.htm

JOCOTEPEC, JALISCO (20/FEB/2014).- A man of United States origin was found dead in a subdivision in the municipality of Jocotepec and agents from the State Prosecutor's Office (FGE) believe he was murdered.

This Thursday afternoon a man identified as John Paul, 67, was found dead inside a clubhouse in the Roca Azul subdivision in the aforesaid municipality in the La Ciénega region of the state.

The victim was stretched out under a trailer and showed signs of strangulation and his left arm was severed.

The victim was found by a local resident who came looking for him because he had not seen him for four days.

Investigators from the FGE and personnel from the Jalisco Forensic Science Institute went to the scene to investigate the case.

The writer Linda Marian (Nina) Discombe and her husband Edward J. Kular were found dead on Feb. 9, 2014 in their house on Camino Real and Paseo de la Pesca streets in the La Floresta neighborhood of Ajijic, municipality of Chapala.

They had been attacked by two brothers who murdered the foreigners in a robbery.

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Post by brigitte Fri Feb 21, 2014 9:43 am

If the man was a known alcoholic running in a bad crowd it can explain what happened to him. If this is correct it explains the crime, not everyone who is killed is a saint, sometimes bad things happen to people who are helpless and have bad friends.

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Post by Axixic Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:39 am

The severed left arm is an interesting detail.
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Post by CanuckBob Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:40 am

Perhaps a translation error? I took it as being a broken arm.
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Post by Axixic Fri Feb 21, 2014 10:45 am

You're right, Bob. I asked Susan to look at the original and she said it indicates that it was broken - possibly dislocated - but NOT detached from the body.

That fits better with the apparent cause of death and is likely a defensive injury.
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Post by Smartalex Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:00 am

The original press report says the left arm was "desprendido," which means detached in English.
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Post by Ricardo Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:21 pm

Smartalex wrote:The original press report says the left arm was "desprendido," which means detached in English.
Correct, it definitely means it was detached from the body, whether that was what was what the reporter meant to say or not.

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Post by lucky Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:49 pm

A friend here in Joco told me that the man owned and/or operated a bar with "working" girls and that the belief was that the cut off arm meant he had failed to pay somebody off.

Take that for what it's worth.

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Post by hickton Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:43 pm

the whole thing has been deleted from tob.. typical

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Post by Pedro Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:44 pm

if it was merely dislocated "disloco el braso"
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Post by Ms.Thang Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:34 pm

In medical terms "dislocado" would apply to a joint not an entire extremity.
Desprendido definitely means it was detached from the body. Ick.

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