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Post by Trailrunner Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:14 am

1 confirmed in Chapala
2 confirmed in Joco
5 confirmed in Tizapan el Alto

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Post by CanuckBob Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:24 am

We have certainly dodged the bullet so far but sooner or later there is going to be a breakout locally. Wear your mask when out shopping and wash your hands frequently. Each one of these cases have probably infected 10 people before they displayed symptoms. I'm still amazed that I see old suseptible gringos walking around without masks or not wearing them properly.

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Post by Trailrunner Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:48 am

Had to go to Ajijic yesterday, almost no one wearing masks. Foreigners and locals. A woman in line next to me, had to keep dancing around to keep a distance from her, was wearing a mask but the 2 year old in her arms was not. Walmart same story, mandatory masks to get in the store but once in 90% had pulled them down either to their neck or under their nose. One noticeably defiant looking old gringo bugger waiting for someone to say something to him. What is wrong with these people?
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Post by MexicoPete Tue Jun 02, 2020 11:07 am

What is so strange is that sometimes when I go out, not that many folks are wearing masks and other days it seams like almost everyone is.

More and more masks look like scarfs. I just know that I am a worrywart and not only do I wear a mask but also surgical gloves :)
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Post by ferret Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:55 pm

Very long, very sad and very powerful...

https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/2020/05/27/coronavirus-pandemic-100000-deaths-us/5239048002/

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Post by Jreboll Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:09 am

Something to watch out for. Out of Italy comes reports that the virus is evolving and loosing its strength. This hasn’t been corroborated.

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Post by CanuckBob Wed Jun 03, 2020 9:13 am

Mexico is reporting 97,326 confirmed cases this morning.

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Post by Jreboll Wed Jun 03, 2020 12:25 pm

the Lancet backing down on its hydroxyquoloquine study:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/exposing-manufactured-disinformation-enabling-hydroxychloroquine-hysterics

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Post by ferret Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:21 pm

There is only one thing that will make any sense and it was NOT mentioned.
That is the DOSAGE given to: Covid-19 patients vs. Lupus and Rheumatoid patients vs. as a malarial preventative. That one thing may make all the difference in the world in determining side effects.
Vitamin D3 is good but NOT at very high doses. Caveat emptor.
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Post by Jreboll Wed Jun 03, 2020 2:13 pm

But you have to give zinc for it to be effective. Zithromax also goes with it but the combination has to be monitored for cardiac effect.

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Post by BisbeeGal Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:32 pm

Report on double-blind study of hydroxychloroquine as a preventative drug against COVID-19.

You can read free it at WaPo (no subscription needed); I've quoted some of the most important points, but it is an article worth reading.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/06/03/hydroxychloroquine-clinical-trial-results/

Hydroxychloroquine did not prevent healthy people exposed to covid-19 from getting the disease caused by the coronavirus, according to a study being published Wednesday in the New England Journal of Medicine.

The study is the first randomized clinical trial that tested the antimalarial drug as a preventive measure, according to researchers at the University of Minnesota Medical School who conducted the trial. It showed that hydroxychloroquine, which has been touted by President Trump, was no more effective than a placebo — in this case, a vitamin — in protecting people exposed to covid-19.

“As we say in Tennessee, ‘that dog won’t hunt’ — it didn’t work,” said William Schaffner, a professor of preventive medicine and infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University Medical Center. Schaffner, who was not involved in the trial, praised it as “rigorously done.”

Researchers launched the trial in mid-March. They enrolled more than 800 adults in the United States and Canada who were exposed to someone with covid-19 because of their jobs as health-care workers or first responders, or because they lived with someone with the disease. The study was a randomized, placebo-controlled trial and was double-blinded, meaning neither the participants nor the researchers knew what the participants received. Such a study is considered the gold standard for clinical trials.

Overall, about 12 percent given the drug developed covid-19, while 14 percent given the placebo also did — not a statistical difference. There was no benefit for people who also took zinc or vitamin C, the researchers said.
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Post by Jreboll Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:01 pm

Interesting development. The next few days should let us know where the dust settles on this.

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Post by CanuckBob Wed Jun 03, 2020 4:03 pm

Well vit D3 and C help boost your immune system so you may not get hit as hard.

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Post by CanuckBob Thu Jun 04, 2020 9:41 am

Mexico is reporting 101,238 confirmed cases this morning.

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Post by Jreboll Thu Jun 04, 2020 10:40 am

NEJM follows up on the study by University of Minnesota with an editorial stating that the study is not definitive and more research needs to be done on HCQ.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMe2020388

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Post by BisbeeGal Thu Jun 04, 2020 11:34 am

Unfortunately the 2 confirmed Chapala cases require hospitalization according to this news report from La Pagina.

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🔴 | Confirman segundo caso de Covid-19 en Chapala

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Una mujer de 53 años de edad dio positivo en la prueba del nuevo Coronavirus (Covid-19), por lo que el municipio de #Chapala presenta ya su segundo caso confirmado de esta enfermedad. El caso apareció registrado este 3 de junio en la plataforma de la Dirección General de Epidemiología (DGE) de la Secretaría de Salud Federal (SSA). La paciente tiene su residencia en la cabecera municipal de Chapala y se encuentra hospitalizada. El primer caso confirmado de Covid-19 se dio a conocer el pasado 1 de junio. Se trata de un masculino de 44 años de edad, quien se encuentra hospitalizado. Al momento, Chapala tiene 37 casos negativos y siete sospechosos.

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🔴 | Confirm second case of Covid-19 in Chapala

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A 53-year-old woman tested positive for the new Coronavirus (Covid-19), so the municipality of #Chapala already presents its second confirmed case of this disease. The case appeared registered this June 3 on the platform of the Federal Ministry of Health (SSA). Patient has her residence in the municipal head of Chapala and is hospitalized. The first confirmed case of Covid-19 was released last June 1 It is a 44-year-old male who is hospitalized. At the moment, Chapala has 37 negative cases and seven suspects.
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Post by Jreboll Thu Jun 04, 2020 2:35 pm

Me thinks he protests too much:

https://www.krgv.com/news/mexican-president-urges-calm-after-jump-in-reported-coronavirus-deaths


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Post by ferret Fri Jun 05, 2020 7:23 pm

Another fascinating read...

https://elemental.medium.com/coronavirus-may-be-a-blood-vessel-disease-which-explains-everything-2c4032481ab2
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Post by Jreboll Sat Jun 06, 2020 5:32 am

News today that a local man who was on a ventilator for 2 weeks was given plasma transfusion and taken off vent. In 24 hours and is now out of the hospital. He is 17th successful plasma transfusion in this 3 county region of south Texas.

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Post by CanuckBob Sat Jun 06, 2020 8:12 am

Mexico is reporting 110,026 confirmed cases this morning.

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Post by Trailrunner Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:23 am

Chapala 3
Jocotepec 9

As of 10pm last night.
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Post by CanuckBob Sat Jun 06, 2020 10:35 am

Thanks for additional info. I'll supply the overall number if you can supply the local numbers that would be appreciated.

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Post by Trailrunner Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:12 am

Sure. So many Jalisco villages, some near and some far, are now reporting confirmed cases, I will focus on the villages around our lake and add:

Tizapan el Alto 6

Additionally, Joco reporting its first covid19 confirmed death. A 23 y/o female.
(Per Joco Bonito Covid19)
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Post by mudgirl Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:39 pm

Unfortunately, it may require a few severe cases or deaths in their own community for people to understand that it's serious and stop refusing to wear masks, isolate or having parties.

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Post by CanuckBob Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:04 pm

Everyone has a different "risk tolerance". Mine is pretty high I suppose. While I wear a mask when out and about I don't restrict where I go. I would get on an airplane tomorrow if given the opportunity to go somewhere.

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Post by Jreboll Sat Jun 06, 2020 2:29 pm

At some point we have to go from avoidance to facing it and having a game plan. An important part is talking to your doctor and define a strategy when symptoms appear.

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