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Post by ChickenLittle on Thu May 24, 2012 4:06 pm

There's a post on TOB that the Animal Shelter is closing and a request that the dogs be adopted as soon as possible. Can anyone confirm this or add details?
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Post by MexicoPete on Thu May 24, 2012 4:54 pm

Sadly because of the neighbors complaining to the Chapala officials the Animal Shelter is being forced (or may be forced) to close down the "dog shelter" across the street from the Animal Shelter.

There seem to be two sides to the story of why the dog shelter should be closed down. But the dogs barking at night has gotten some home owners very upset.

Gee I'm in a condo in Seattle right now, right across the street from ambulance entrance to a large hospital. And boy did I think I could never get used to those very loud sirens I would hear every night. They're much louder than a barking dog. At first, it bothered me so much that I was even thinking about moving out a week or two after I moved in. Today, I don't even hear the sirens. And they are very loud. To bad the home owners near the dog shelter could not get used to the barking dogs. (No, not all of those living next to the shelter are complaining, but that's another story)
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Post by Flamingo on Thu May 24, 2012 5:18 pm

Some people see themselves as more important than an entire community. Rather than help do something to to muffle the sound of barking, and agree that the shelter is an invaluable community resource, a few people decided that they wanted the shelter closed and moved. They complained and whined until it happened.
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Post by viajero on Thu May 24, 2012 6:09 pm

MexicoPete wrote: To bad the home owners near the dog shelter could not get used to the barking dogs.)
I could not disagree more!!,have you ever lived next to a neighbor whose dog barked for hours on end all night long not allowing you or your family to sleep,you go to work in the morning not having slept at all because some stupid dog and it's even stupider effing owners have zero respect or courtesy for their neighbors,screw that.Have a little common sense and common courtesy and move the shelter out to the country.

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Post by johninajijic on Thu May 24, 2012 6:12 pm

ChickenLittle wrote:There's a post on TOB that the Animal Shelter is closing and a request that the dogs be adopted as soon as possible. Can anyone confirm this or add details?

Let's hope it's only a rumour.
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Post by simpsca on Thu May 24, 2012 6:20 pm

He was through a legal wrangle before over the neighbor problem and I believe at that time the number of dogs was reduced - all adopted out thankfully. Don't know what the issue is this time but I need dog food tomorrow and will see if I can find out anything.
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Post by MexicoPete on Thu May 24, 2012 6:32 pm

Look at the anger you are showing. What would have happened if instead of building up this anger, you were able to try to relax? Just maybe, you would learn how to sleep through the barking. Gosh between my next door neighbors and I we have 6 or 8 dogs. No they probably don't bark as much as the shelter animals do, but sometimes they bark a lot.

One night my dogs were barking quite a bit, and so I apologized to my neighbors who also had dogs that sometimes barked a lot. My American neighbor whose parents were born in Mexico, looked at me rather strangely for apologizing and she answered, don't worry about it, that's what dogs do.

Like I’ve posted on another board, what really bothers me are not the music parties, not the barking dogs, but those Gosh darn fireworks that go off at 6 AM in the morning. But give me a few mornings and I get used to them.

I’ve talked to some of your other neighbors who are not bothered as much as you. And I am truly sorry that you are so bothered by these dogs.

I hope that a solution can be found that makes sense for the majority, whatever that may be. There is just so much these volunteers can do to help these animals. And I understand that if the dog part of the shelter has to be closed down that there may not be a replacement run by the same organization. The dog shelter has been within a block or three of where they are now since the mid 90s when I got here, and probably much longer than that. I am sorry that you (plural) are closing them down
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Post by viajero on Thu May 24, 2012 7:51 pm

MexicoPete wrote:Look at the anger you are showing. What would have happened if instead of building up this anger, you were able to try to relax? Just maybe, you would learn how to sleep through the barking. Gosh between my next door neighbors and I we have 6 or 8 dogs.

I’ve talked to some of your other neighbors who are not bothered as much as you. And I am truly sorry that you are so bothered by these dogs.

Why in the hell should I have to learn how to sleep through the barking?I'm not talking about the occasional bark, got no problem with that,I'm talking about non-stop incessant barking through the night,only a totally inconsiderate dog owner would inflict that on their neighbors,unfortunately there are many of those.BTW I don't live anywhere near that shelter so I doubt that you've talked to my neighbors.

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Post by Flamingo on Thu May 24, 2012 9:00 pm

I find it difficult to believe the Animal Shelter dogs cause "non-stop incessant barking". When we lived in Brisas, across a large field from The Ranch, all 70 dogs didn't bark that much. If the shelter dogs are indeed barking all night, perhaps helping pay for a sound-muffling wall would be more constructive than closing a much needed resource that rehomes over 120 dog a year.
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Post by MexicoPete on Thu May 24, 2012 10:22 pm

Viajero: My God. the anger shown in your post is really telling. You posted; “Why in the hell should I have to learn how to sleep through the barking?”

As I answer you in a 139 condo unit in Seattle, I can hear the siren (double siren) of a very loud ambulance racing to the hospital. Some 35 of the 139 units face this street. And let me tell you those sirens that go off all of the time are one heck of a lot louder than barking dogs. Do any of us demand that the sirens stop being used when going by our building? Of course not. we get used to the loud noises and we don’t post saying why the hell should we learn how to sleep through the sirens

When in upper Ajijic, I live in a neighborhood where most all of us have 3 to 4 dogs, and boy do they bark sometimes. Do they bark as much as they do at the animal shelter? Probably not as much. But we all (my neighbors and I) have learned to sleep through the nightly barking spells, so we don’t really know. One night, my three dogs were really bad and barked much of the night. When I apologized to the neighbors, a “pocha”, American daughter of Mexican born parents who runs a B&B and has four loud barking dogs of her own said, “why should you apologize?” That’s what dogs do. That’s what my (her) dogs so.

I promise you Viajero, if you lived in my neighborhood you would be complaining, perhaps even more than you are now. Mexico is a loud place. I don’t mean to be rude when I say this, but get used to it.

In my neighborhood we also have loud music and worst of all we are at the same altitude as much of the fireworks go off that are fired from the Ajijic square and the church. And every year during the November, 9 day Ajijic festival, I have a hell of a time sleeping through the morning fireworks that sometimes start at 6 AM. I don’t know why the dogs don’t wake me up at night, but the fireworks do. What do I do? I don’t send out angry emails or post complaining on the forums. Rather I adjust.

I truly hope you can adjust.
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Post by Parker on Thu May 24, 2012 11:24 pm

viajero wrote:
MexicoPete wrote:Look at the anger you are showing. What would have happened if instead of building up this anger, you were able to try to relax? Just maybe, you would learn how to sleep through the barking. Gosh between my next door neighbors and I we have 6 or 8 dogs.

I’ve talked to some of your other neighbors who are not bothered as much as you. And I am truly sorry that you are so bothered by these dogs.

Why in the hell should I have to learn how to sleep through the barking?I'm not talking about the occasional bark, got no problem with that,I'm talking about non-stop incessant barking through the night,only a totally inconsiderate dog owner would inflict that on their neighbors,unfortunately there are many of those.BTW I don't live anywhere near that shelter so I doubt that you've talked to my neighbors.

Kind of like “non-stop incessant” crying of babies. You’re pretty much a phony, airplanes, apartments, trying to find peace; you are nothing more than an ass.

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Post by viajero on Fri May 25, 2012 1:45 pm

Pete I'm guessing the hospital was already there when you chose to move into your condo so how could you complain about sirens??Apples and oranges.BTW pocha is a derogatory term,you might want to try Mexican-American or chicana.Which of any of my statements did you find unreasonable?
You've referred to yourself on other forums as the viejo naco,it's a good fit IMO.


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Post by viajero on Fri May 25, 2012 1:48 pm

Parker being called an ass by you,I consider a compliment,you bitter old child hater.

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Post by merry on Fri May 25, 2012 1:56 pm

viajero wrote:...have you ever lived next to a neighbor whose dog barked for hours on end all night long not allowing you or your family to sleep,you go to work in the morning not having slept at all because some stupid dog and it's even stupider effing owners have zero respect or courtesy for their neighbors,screw that. Have a little common sense and common courtesy and move the shelter out to the country.

I'm with ya there, Viajero. About 5 years ago I did live near the shelter, loved that little house but the barking was nearly continuous 24/7. Dogs that are barking all the time are stressed, animals that are at a shelter are stressed anyway, and it's a lot less stressful for them to be out in the country.

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Post by viajero on Fri May 25, 2012 2:24 pm

Merry I like dogs but if you've ever lived next door to one that barked for hours on end in the middle of the night,well it's enough to drive you bonkers,and I blame the owner not the dog,the dog doesn't know any better but the owner should.

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Post by GBATRUCKS on Fri May 25, 2012 2:43 pm

Anybody that doesn't realize that noise is the very heart and soul of Mexico didn't do their homework before moving here.
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Post by merry on Fri May 25, 2012 2:51 pm

Viajero you might re-read my message, I think we are vehemently agreeing on this.

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Post by merry on Fri May 25, 2012 2:52 pm

GBATRUCKS wrote:Anybody that doesn't realize that noise is the very heart and soul of Mexico didn't do their homework before moving here.

Dang, and here I thought bright color was the very heart and soul of Mexico.

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Post by Zedinmexico on Fri May 25, 2012 3:11 pm

Easy Guys both sides bring up valid points.

And I live 75 ft from the plaza in Ajijic so I do understand noise.

Peace

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Post by GBATRUCKS on Fri May 25, 2012 3:13 pm

merry wrote:
GBATRUCKS wrote:Anybody that doesn't realize that noise is the very heart and soul of Mexico didn't do their homework before moving here.

Dang, and here I thought bright color was the very heart and soul of Mexico.

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We are already planning our escape to the beach during Joco hell-week....In January when everybody celebrates Patron Saint Whoever. Gypsys from all over Mexico set up stalls pitching the same stuff...didn't know their was so much Asian crap I could live without until I moved to Mexico. Horrible banda "music" until 2AM, then the rockets start in around 4 or 5...supposed to ward off the evil spirits...seems like a fine line between religion & superstition.
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Post by Parker on Fri May 25, 2012 3:16 pm

viajero wrote:Merry I like dogs but if you've ever lived next door to one that barked for hours on end in the middle of the night,well it's enough to drive you bonkers,and I blame the owner not the dog,the dog doesn't know any better but the owner should.

Everything in red is where substitutions for wording were replaced; Dogs for babies, owners for parents etc.

Viajero, I like babies but if you've ever flown next seat to one that cried for hours on end in the middle of the flight, well it's enough to drive you bonkers, and I blame the parents not the baby, the baby doesn't know any better but the parent should.

If it affects you it’s their problem and if it affects them it still their problem, hopefully one day you’ll grow up, what else can be said?



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Post by merry on Fri May 25, 2012 3:19 pm

GBATRUCKS wrote:We are already planning our escape to the beach during Joco hell-week....In January when everybody celebrates Patron Saint Whoever. Gypsys from all over Mexico set up stalls pitching the same stuff...didn't know their was so much Asian crap I could live without until I moved to Mexico. Horrible banda "music" until 2AM, then the rockets start in around 4 or 5...supposed to ward off the evil spirits...seems like a fine line between religion & superstition.
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Earplugs are the solution to almost any noise problem, from babies on airplanes to horrible banda "music" until 2 am, dogs barking, husbands snoring, kids who won't go to bed. Luckily I have cornered the world market on them, and soon I shall be an earplug magnate. Anyone who wants peace in their life must get them through me, or suffer the consequences. Know me, know peace. No me, no peace.

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Post by viajero on Fri May 25, 2012 3:29 pm

merry wrote:Viajero you might re-read my message, I think we are vehemently agreeing on this.

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Merry I understood your message the first time and was somewhat surprised by it,my message was not directed to you but the other poster but do to the poor wording of my post I'm not surprised it was misunderstood,my excuse,I'm trying to play dominos with my 6 year old and post at the same time.
I love it when people vehemently agree with me.

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Post by merry on Fri May 25, 2012 3:38 pm

viajero wrote:
merry wrote:Viajero you might re-read my message, I think we are vehemently agreeing on this.

Merry
Merry I understood your message the first time and was somewhat surprised by it,my message was not directed to you but the other poster ...
I love it when people vehemently agree with me.

Viajero, your message started out with "Merry I like dogs but if you've ever lived next door to one that barked for hours on end..." so I assumed you were talking to me.

Anyway it's nice to agree with you.

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Post by viajero on Fri May 25, 2012 3:40 pm

Parker wrote:
viajero wrote:Merry I like dogs but if you've ever lived next door to one that barked for hours on end in the middle of the night,well it's enough to drive you bonkers,and I blame the owner not the dog,the dog doesn't know any better but the owner should.

Everything in red is where substitutions for wording were replaced; Dogs for babies, owners for parents etc.

Viajero, I like babies but if you've ever flown next seat to one that cried for hours on end in the middle of the flight, well it's enough to drive you bonkers, and I blame the parents not the baby, the baby doesn't know any better but the parent should.

If it affects you it’s their problem and if it affects them it still their problem, hopefully one day you’ll grow up, what else can be said?


You are so STUPID Parker how do compare an annoyance that lasts a few hours at most to one that goes on for days,weeks and months,you truly are an idiot.and a child hater.

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