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Post by Trailrunner Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:06 pm

Looks like this is going to be a legal reality soon!

http://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/reform-drug-laws-epn-tells-un-meeting/?utm_source=Mexico+News+Daily&utm_campaign=5af7217b2d-April+21&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_f1536a3787-5af7217b2d-347997345


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Post by CanuckBob Thu Apr 21, 2016 7:44 pm

Yep it's coming.
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Post by hockables Thu Apr 21, 2016 8:37 pm

Let's get some n celebrate Beer
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Post by Chapalagringa Thu Apr 21, 2016 11:16 pm

I was in the homeopathic store on main street in Chapala this week and they carry cannabis sativa and indica in drops. I looked at the girl behind the counter and asked her if it's legal now? She said it must be. I didn't think it was but thought of people I know dealing with cancer and wondered if it'd help a little with the pain? I know they need the oil. I need some oil for some spots on my skin. I tried it last year in the states for 3 days with a bandaid on them. A lot wiped off when I took the bandage off. There just wasn't enough time to finish the job. I need one or two more applications and that's probably it.
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Post by Trailrunner Fri Apr 22, 2016 8:29 am

Wow, seriously? They  have the oil? If they didn't know if it was legal or not, though, they probably don't know much about the product.

CGringa, what kind of spots on your skin? Do you mean the kind the dermatologists freeze off?
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Post by viajero Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:29 am

CanuckBob wrote:Yep it's coming.
It never left.

La cucaracha la cucaracha
Que ya no puede caminar
Porque no tiene
Porque le falta
La marijuana que fumar..


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Post by Ojalero Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:32 am

What happened to this?

On Aug. 21, 2009, Mexico enacted a "personal use" law that decriminalizes possession of small amounts of marijuana, cocaine, heroin and other drugs.

Amounts allowed:
"Personal use" amounts are 5 grams of marijuana (three to six joints, depending on size) and 500 milligrams of cocaine (roughly five doses, or "lines"), as well as small amounts of other drugs.
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Post by Trailrunner Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:35 am

What do you mean, what happened to this? it exists.

This new proposal is to increase the amounts of personal possession and to make it legal to use medically and scientifically for research.
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Post by Ojalero Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:19 am

Trailrunner wrote:What do you mean, what happened to this? it exists.

This new proposal is to increase the amounts of personal possession and to make it legal to use medically and scientifically for research.

A rhetorical question I guess. I am just amazed how the legality is not mentioned much.
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Post by CanuckBob Fri Apr 22, 2016 11:54 am

I have referred to that law on several occasions. I don't think it legalized personal quantities, it decriminalized them meaning the policia can still confiscate but no criminal action. Perhaps Spencer could clarify.
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Post by Ojalero Fri Apr 22, 2016 2:10 pm

If I had read the OP's link I would not have posted in this thread. The President of Mexico's opinion carries very little weight and I look at it as just political puffing.


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Post by Trailrunner Fri Apr 22, 2016 3:24 pm

CGringa, what homeopathic store in Chapala on the main street? Could you be a bit more specific? I was thinking of the one across from Superlake, sorry.
Thanks for the info.
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Post by Chapalagringa Fri Apr 22, 2016 4:09 pm

It's not the oil, it's just tincture made with alcohol.  Not the same at all.  But for someone who is in pain, it may help.  Very mild though I have to imagine.  I wonder if you cooked the tincture it'd make a drop or two of oil?  That's a thought but not worth it for a drop. lol  

I have very fair skin and there are moles/freckles that I'd like to take off with it, sun damage that I don't want to go any further.  One spot I've had removed at least twice and was hoping the oil would take care of it.  You just put a little tiny dab of cannabis oil, doesn't matter what kind it is, can even be made with the junk stuff, and put a band aid on it.  Change the band aide every three days until it's gone.  It only removes the spots/moles that you don't want and leaves baby soft skin.  Very nice but it sure stinks! lolol

Main street Chapala, I think a few doors down from Taco Chuy.  I've never tried their drops I do know that some drops help with pain depending on the strain etc.  Ya, the problem is knowing what the plant is.  That's the bummer about cannabis.  There's hundreds of strains.  I was writing to someone I consider an expert on medicinal cannabis and was texting them, "which makes you sleepy and which makes you have energy? sativa or indica?  Answer: It depends on how it affects people, generally sativa makes you more sleepy.
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Post by ferret Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:22 pm

There's a few incorrect things in this thread

@ chapalagringa...the opposite is true...Indica makes you more sleepy and sedated and Sativa is more uplifting and energizing.

CBD oil is Cannabidiol oil which is made from hemp and contains no THC. Cannabidiol is a cannabinoid just like THC is...one of up to 80 cannabinoids that can be found in Cannabis. More info here... https://healthyhempoil.com/

This subject gets very complicated about strains and which is best for what illness and in what format. https://www.leafly.com/  is a good source of info and also http://www.medicaljane.com/ or just good old google.
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Post by Carry Bean Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:24 pm

Marlowe's had some kind of liquid with Cannabis written on the label. This was maybe 6 month ago.

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Post by Trailrunner Fri Apr 22, 2016 6:13 pm

The topical tincture is available all over Mexico, they've been using it for probably centuries on muscles and joints. Probably works, I dunno.
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Post by Chapalagringa Fri Apr 22, 2016 9:21 pm

ferret wrote:There's a few incorrect things in this thread

@ chapalagringa...the opposite is true...Indica makes you more sleepy and sedated and Sativa is more uplifting and energizing.

Yes, you are correct, i made a typo
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Post by ferret Fri Apr 22, 2016 10:27 pm

Thought people would like to read this article...

http://www.medicaljane.com/2014/05/29/finding-the-optimal-therapeutic-ratio-of-thc-and-cbd/

There are strains out there that are known ratios which is where Leafly is a good source of info...they use Steephill Labs Technology to identify content. There's lots of stuff with high THC but here's some others...
ACDC...high in CBD but low in THC...
https://www.leafly.com/hybrid/acdc
Cannatonic... about half and half...
https://www.leafly.com/hybrid/cannatonic

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Post by Trailrunner Sat Apr 23, 2016 7:41 am

Had an opportunity to talk to a local neurologist/neurosurgeon yesterday on this subject. He had no interest, hadn't done any research on the subject, didn't know about it, felt that it was the smokers that were pushing EPN to legalize medical mj, and said when he had protocols to follow he would.
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Post by SuzieQ1954 Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:56 pm

That "protocols to follow" is a standard answer given by US Drs. to any query about an alternative treatment. So have MX Drs. taken this response?

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Post by Trailrunner Sun Jun 05, 2016 9:09 pm

I know only 2 doctors here that have an interest and believe.

How about this question. . .does anyone know of a medical cannabis clinic, either here or on the west coast of the US, where a woman who lives here could go to get treated with cannabis for her cancer? A real clinic with real doctors etc. Asking for an acquaintance, not for me.

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Post by Zedinmexico Mon Jun 06, 2016 7:45 am

viajero wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:Yep it's coming.
It never left.

La cucaracha la cucaracha
Que ya no puede caminar
Porque no tiene
Porque le falta
La marijuana que fumar..


I remember singing this song with these words when I was a kid than some adult figured out what the song actually said and we got new words. In some places Cucaracha also means a pot smoker or it means roach which is the last little part of a joint.

Yes V it never left.

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Post by CanuckBob Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:03 am

Legalized medical marijuana has always been available? That's news to me.

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Post by ferret Sun Jun 19, 2016 7:27 am

Cannabis Tinctures 101. The comments are quite interesting too.

https://www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/cannabis-tinctures-101-what-are-they-how-to-make-them-and-how-to?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=B2C%20Weekend%20News%20-%20Week%2022%20-%20Eng&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_term=Master%20-%20Engaged%2C%20Active%2C%20Passive%2C%20or%20New
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Post by ferret Wed Jul 06, 2016 1:47 pm

Scientists at the Salk Institute labs in San Diego have published preliminary evidence that tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and other compounds found in cannabis can remove amyloid beta, the toxic protein most commonly associated with Alzheimer’s disease.

https://www.leafly.com/news/headlines/is-cannabis-part-of-an-alzheimers-cure?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=B2C%20News%20-%20Week%2025%20-%20Eng&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_term=Master%20-%20Engaged%2C%20Active%2C%20Passive%2C%20or%20New


Five ways that Medical Marijuana can be helping Alzheimer's Patients...

https://www.leafly.com/news/health/the-medical-minute-5-ways-cannabis-could-be-helping-alzheimers-pa
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