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We have done it
by newinajijic Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:19 pm
We have made the big move. We bought a condo in Ajijic and will leave Canada in Nov. to move full time. we have visited lake Chapala many times and are familiar with the area. however we are confused over immigration issues what do we need to do to stay full time? Thanks Roger
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Re: We have done it
by Intercasa Fri Jun 14, 2013 12:21 pm
Get a visa from the Mexican consulate in Canada, get a permanent one and don't bring your car.
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Re: We have done it
by CanuckBob Fri Jun 14, 2013 1:58 pm
You can no longer arrive in Mexico on a tourist visa and apply for your Permanente visa here.
You need to apply for your permanente visa at the closest Mexican consulate to your home in Canada. Once you arrive in Mexico you will have 30 days to complete the process that was started in Canada. You will need to show either $128K per person in a bank account (or cash investments) over the past 12 months OR a monthly income of $2500 per person over the past 12 months.
And like Intercasa said, do not bring your foreign plated car. Purchase a Mexican plated car after you arrive.
You need to apply for your permanente visa at the closest Mexican consulate to your home in Canada. Once you arrive in Mexico you will have 30 days to complete the process that was started in Canada. You will need to show either $128K per person in a bank account (or cash investments) over the past 12 months OR a monthly income of $2500 per person over the past 12 months.
And like Intercasa said, do not bring your foreign plated car. Purchase a Mexican plated car after you arrive.
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Re: We have done it
by Jim W Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:12 pm
As I understand it, investment does not include real estate in Mexico, i.e., your home.
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Re: We have done it
by CanuckBob Fri Jun 14, 2013 3:30 pm
That's right, your income, cash or cash investment source must be from outside Mexico. You cannot use your Mexican real estate towards your Permanente Visa income requirement.
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Re: We have done it
by Jim W Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:26 pm
That rule regarding your Mexican home is like voting when your brain is stuck on stupid.....LOL..makes no sense....My understanding is that NOB real estate investment does count.......MAKES PERFECT SENSE TO ME 
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Re: We have done it
by papa chango Fri Jun 14, 2013 5:15 pm
You are mistaken Bob in that you said that you needed to have your investments north of the border. I got my residente permanente based on my investments in Mexico.
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Re: We have done it
by Jim W Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:51 pm
Pedro wrote:it's income-period
You are misinformed on this one Pedro..........Spencer advised minimum income monthly $2500.00pp or $130000k per person supported by 12 months statements.
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Re: We have done it
by Intercasa Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:55 pm
It is either income or assets and different immigration offices apply it differently. Some offices are rumored to only accept retirement account statements!
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Re: We have done it
by CanuckBob Sat Jun 15, 2013 7:51 am
papa chango wrote:You are mistaken Bob in that you said that you needed to have your investments north of the border. I got my residente permanente based on my investments in Mexico.
Well we were not allowed to use our Mexican Real estate as part of the income requirement for our Permanantes. I guess each office differs like Spencer says.
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Re: We have done it
by johninajijic Sat Jun 15, 2013 9:40 am
It's 2,500 USD PP or a fixed yearly total in your bank or investment account (I think 130,00 USD), either in Mexico or in the US or Canada.
They only want to know that you're not indigent here to suck on the Mexican system.
They only want to know that you're not indigent here to suck on the Mexican system.
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Re: We have done it
by Lady Otter Latté Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:04 am
Less than $2,500 a month and $130,000 in savings makes you an indigent who needs to suck off the system in MEXICO? Seriously?
And, exactly what is the system we would be sucking off of? I have less than half those amounts and take NOTHING from the Mexican government.
And, exactly what is the system we would be sucking off of? I have less than half those amounts and take NOTHING from the Mexican government.
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Re: We have done it
by zenwoodle Sat Jun 15, 2013 10:48 am
The income requirements are out of line.
If the 3 of us met the requirements, we would have a total income which would be twice what we need to live NOB.
We need less than 2500 a month for the 3 of us to live here.
If the 3 of us met the requirements, we would have a total income which would be twice what we need to live NOB.
We need less than 2500 a month for the 3 of us to live here.
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Re: We have done it
by CanuckBob Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:02 pm
Could be, however those income requirements are in line with what most countries would require for a Permanente retiree residence visa. No? I suspect Canada is even higher for a retiree immigrant.
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Re: We have done it
by Lady Otter Latté Sat Jun 15, 2013 2:08 pm
I think a country´s income requirements should have something to do with what a decent standard of living costs in that country. If being a drain on "the system" is a concern, make foreigners inelegible for any of their many benefits--whatever they may be.
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Re: We have done it
by viajero Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:03 pm
That makes sense.My family and I live comfortably on less than what the new requirements specify and never use any government benefits even though my wife and son are Mexican.When I married Lupe the INM doubled the income requirement for my FM3,what a joke.Lady Otter Latté wrote:I think a country´s income requirements should have something to do with what a decent standard of living costs in that country. If being a drain on "the system" is a concern, make foreigners inelegible for any of their many benefits--whatever they may be.
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Re: We have done it
by little italy Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:18 pm
[quote="CanuckBob"]Could be, however those income requirements are in line with what most countries would require for a Permanente retiree residence visa. No? I suspect Canada is even higher for a retiree immigrant.
Wow why would Canada be higher???? doesn't seem fair. I am in the process of renewing my INM to permanente and did not need to show any income requirements. [/quote]
Wow why would Canada be higher???? doesn't seem fair. I am in the process of renewing my INM to permanente and did not need to show any income requirements. [/quote]
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Re: We have done it
by zenwoodle Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:07 pm
I agree that the income requirements should reflect the cost of living in a country.
My problem with the current Mexican requirements is the fact that it is per person.
There should be a per person rate and a family rate.
My problem with the current Mexican requirements is the fact that it is per person.
There should be a per person rate and a family rate.
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Re: We have done it
by CanuckBob Sat Jun 15, 2013 5:48 pm
little italy wrote:CanuckBob wrote:Could be, however those income requirements are in line with what most countries would require for a Permanente retiree residence visa. No? I suspect Canada is even higher for a retiree immigrant.
Wow why would Canada be higher???? doesn't seem fair. I am in the process of renewing my INM to permanente and did not need to show any income requirements.
That is because you must have completed your 4 years on a Temporary and were "grandfathered" under the old rules hence you didn't have to show financials. For those that don't want to wait the 4 years then you have to show financials. Spencer recommended that we get our Permanante's ASAP, so we did. You never know when those rules may change again........jajaja.
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by newinajijic Wed Oct 09, 2013 12:50 am
Everything is coming together, our flight booked for Nov.1 We will be there for day of the dead. Our closing date has been moved up and things look good. Phone booked, Dish lined up, still working on car purchase. and if there are any glitches, you know what I do not care because we will be in the number one retirement place in Mexico. And it is starting to rain in Vancouver. See you soon, Roger
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Re: We have done it
by arbon Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:07 am
*¿Say what?CanuckBob wrote:Could be, however those income requirements are in line with what most countries would require for a Permanente retiree residence visa. No? I suspect Canada is even higher for a *retiree immigrant*.
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Re: We have done it
by mrum Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:41 pm
What is the downside of going the revolving visitor visa route?Leave and re-enter every 6 mths. Could you still buy a mexican plated car to use?
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Re: We have done it
by CanuckBob Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:35 pm
There is no real downside that I am aware of other than you need to leave the country every 6 months which could become a PIA. Yes, you can still buy a Mexican plated car. You just need your tourist visa, your passport and proof of residency.
However that being said Mexico is always changing their rules so you never know what may be in store down the road.....if you are planning on staying here FT getting a permanente visa would be preferable IMO.
However that being said Mexico is always changing their rules so you never know what may be in store down the road.....if you are planning on staying here FT getting a permanente visa would be preferable IMO.
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