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LOL! Sorry...I'm laughing at Seis being compared to a pitbull seein' as how he's not too fond of the breed. Maybe a terrier? They don't give up easily either.
Slainte39, you are correct. Nobody, in this land of virtual reality, knows everybody. But, for the record, I have shown my creds to Mike (Helperguy) because he's been here two weeks in a row and will be here again on Monday to pick up my sick laptop. I am also prepared to show them to Gringal, Trailrunner and Spencer because I know them all and they know me. There's not much point showing them to E-raq since she doesn't post here any more...but I can. That's five people...enough for ya?
If backing up statements by using articles from Medical Journals doesn't wash with you then I don't know what will.
I was always interested in Dr. Mike's alternative medicine point of view. I didn't always agree with it but it made me think and usually sent me scurrying for more information.
We all used to have a "real" life with "real" qualifications in the "real" world. Some of us were very proud of it and it's a low blow and mud slinging to have that challenged instead of dealing with the actual issue of disagreement in question.

ferret wrote:LOL! Sorry...I'm laughing at Seis being compared to a pitbull seein' as how he's not too fond of the breed. Maybe a terrier? They don't give up easily either.
Slainte39, you are correct. Nobody, in this land of virtual reality, knows everybody. But, for the record, I have shown my creds to Mike (Helperguy) because he's been here two weeks in a row and will be here again on Monday to pick up my sick laptop. I am also prepared to show them to Gringal, Trailrunner and Spencer because I know them all and they know me. There's not much point showing them to E-raq since she doesn't post here any more...but I can. That's five people...enough for ya?
If backing up statements by using articles from Medical Journals doesn't wash with you then I don't know what will.
I was always interested in Dr. Mike's alternative medicine point of view. I didn't always agree with it but it made me think and usually sent me scurrying for more information.
We all used to have a "real" life with "real" qualifications in the "real" world. Some of us were very proud of it and it's a low blow and mud slinging to have that challenged instead of dealing with the actual issue of disagreement in question.

Don't get me wrong... I liked chatt'n with Dr Mike
But Dr Juan pulled his ass outta the fire.... not Tea Leaves & Eye Of Newt
Truth is... I believe what we eat can kill ya or cure ya.... but no miracles there...
I wouldn't brag bout knowing Helperguy.... Seems like a Dick ( Knob )

I wasn't bragging about knowing him...I simply stated that I'd shown him my creds. He, IMHO, is a good computer/tv techie and has helped us out a number of times. For all I know, he thinks we're a couple of nutcases. Whatever you do, don't tell me who to like or associate with or to which lynch mob I should belong.
Hocks, you're losing your sense of humour and starting to sound and write an awful lot like Pedro

ferret wrote:I wasn't bragging about knowing him...I simply stated that I'd shown him my creds. He, IMHO, is a good computer/tv techie and has helped us out a number of times. For all I know, he thinks we're a couple of nutcases. Whatever you do, don't tell me who to like or associate with or to which lynch mob I should belong.
Hocks, you're losing your sense of humour and starting to sound and write an awful lot like Pedro

Awe shit... and I wuz cutt'n out the eyeholes in yer pillowcase for ya!!

Actually.... I though the repeated reference to Knob... wuz the joke

Actually...not funny...and you usually bring a smile to my face with your disarming humourous tactics.
Are we getting close to a full moon or sumthin'? Everyone is REALLY edgy lately.

ferret wrote:
Slainte39, you are correct. Nobody, in this land of virtual reality, knows everybody. But, for the record, I have shown my creds to Mike (Helperguy) because he's been here two weeks in a row and will be here again on Monday to pick up my sick laptop. I am also prepared to show them to Gringal, Trailrunner and Spencer because I know them all and they know me. There's not much point showing them to E-raq since she doesn't post here any more...but I can. That's five people...enough for ya?

Since you mentioned me...my response.
I'm not interested in seeing your credentials or having you have to show them to anyone else. That was not my point.
This is just a board, not a contract for services, so say what you will and people will either take the advice or not. If one chooses not to, they shouldn't be held in any lower esteem than those that do....IMHO.

BTW...Did Mike show you his?...I keep fogetting to ask him.

RoofBob wrote:While Seis can chaf even the most seasoned cowboy he is right more often than not. Switching to a baseball metaphor, his batting average is 750+. Did I say I liked his style? No, but in this land of shysters I appreciate having a pit bull at the front door.

So has the Doctor at the local Red Cross clinic been found not to be qualified?

arbon wrote:

RoofBob wrote:While Seis can chaf even the most seasoned cowboy he is right more often than not. Switching to a baseball metaphor, his batting average is 750+. Did I say I liked his style? No, but in this land of shysters I appreciate having a pit bull at the front door.

So has the Doctor at the local Red Cross clinic been found not to be qualified?

Not to my knowledge.

I really hesitated before floating my opinion on this thread .... but here goes, including my thoughts about this web board generally.

The moderators on this board do a great job, and I appreciate their efforts. Other posters have mentioned the importance of being fair and impartial, with which I heartily agree, and it's not an easy task!

I do like the idea of the Octagon where people can let it all hang out, and if someone doesn't want to see it hanging out, he/she can choose not to go there. It's really good of our patient moderators to keep "weeding out" the Octagon material when it creeps into the Mirador. I like the Local Crime section and only wish people would contribute more information, especially now that Lakechapalacrime is closed. In fact, it was TOB's embargo on crime discussion that originally brought me to this board.

Moderators have the ethical responsibility (IMO) to take reasonable precautions to protect the security, the identities and the contacts of their posters. Moderators have information that isn't accessible to other members or posters. They must never use, share or sell the membership list or member contact information for non-board purposes. No matter what the "rules" say, you have to trust the ethics of the moderators. I have every confidence that I can trust our moderators in this respect.

The moderators have been pretty strict about people "outing" the identity of other posters. I strongly feel that nobody has the right to reveal somebody else's identity or personal details without permission. Please keep up the good work in this area!

The one serious concern that I had was when a poster hijacked the identity of another poster by opening an account with an almost-identical username, and made phony posts in order to embarrass/annoy the original account holder. Not only once but twice! Totally, totally out of line - no matter what anyone's personal opinion is about the posters involved. The moderators should have zero tolerance for stunts like that.

So that's my two cents worth. Thanks for asking, RoofBob/oncesubtle!

Yesterday morning I started a thread in the Octagon, thought better of it, and tried to delete it. Too much time had passed, so I asked the mods to delete it. They didn't. I asked again after the first ad hominen attack. Still no luck.
For the rest of the day, it was a series of personal attacks in English and Spanish. I didn't take it seriously, considering the sources. However, when the OP wants an opening post deleted, I think that the mods should respect that request.

Otherwise, they are appreciated for a thankless job, well done.

Here's my take........(and not that you are one of them) but as you have seen in the past there are many drunken, idiotic posts that get started in the Octagon. I used to get inundated the next morning with requests to delete them from the OP's. I used to do it but after a while I decided that they could live with what they posted. So in all fairness I treated your post in the same fashion. Makes one really consider things before they hit the send button (and you have 15 minutes to reconsider).

Gringal, if it makes you feel any better, your OP left you behind and (as so often happens) took on a life of its own. Any attacks were not upon the OP because the topic had changed. CBob has made it clear. It is "Poster Beware." After a certain length of time, we are stuck with what we wrote and whatever fresh hell it creates.

CanuckBob wrote:Here's my take........(and not that you are one of them) but as you have seen in the past there are many drunken, idiotic posts that get started in the Octagon. I used to get inundated the next morning with requests to delete them from the OP's. I used to do it but after a while I decided that they could live with what they posted. So in all fairness I treated your post in the same fashion. Makes one really consider things before they hit the send button (and you have 15 minutes to reconsider).

I made the post in the morning before going to the Farmers' Market yesterday and surely don't drink at that hour. I stand by what I said, but later realized how quickly the trolls would seize and twist it.

IMO, all requests should be treated for what they're worth, not dumped into the same wastebasket. Just my opinion, but it's your board. De nada.

Now that you've mentioned it, I'm sure you do get a load of next-morning regrets to deal with. That's why that "breathalizer" attachment to the keyboard would be an asset. You know, the one that locks the "send" button at some point.

Dear Moderator:

I'm going to open a topic in the Octagon. Now I know there is a disclaimer that says: Wanna pick a fight?? This is the only place to do it. Do not enter if you are offended by vulgar language and behavior.

But Moderator, here's the difference: my post is going to be reasoned and well-thought out and just chock-full of common sense advice for those here who really don't meet the standards of civilized conversation. So, if I get attacked (in the OCTAGON), would you please show a little proactive protectionism and just delete the whole thread. We know the people who might attack me have no value and nobody wants to read their input anyway, so please, just delete the whole thing. And for the love of god, make them speak English.

Thanks for your consideration

Casi Nada

This for you, Casi nada: My request for deletion preceded any replies at all. At least get your facts straight before running your mouse off. Got a problem with the truth?

gringal wrote:This for you, Casi nada: My request for deletion preceded any replies at all. At least get your facts straight before running your mouse off. Got a problem with the truth?

Did it really? Let me check. Oh oh, a little fib there Gringal. You're request came in the 3rd post, after Slainte39 pointed out: A nice discourse gringal, and probably right on, but doesn't this set yourself up as "lecturer-in-chief, and invite more criticism, deserved or not. The maestra/student, adult/child format doesn't seem to work well on these boards.

But really, who cares what Slainte39 thinks. Just delete the whole thing.

''Got a problem with the truth?'' No. Unlike some.

And by the way, I love your play on words with ''running your mouse off''. Top rate stuff.

casi nada wrote:

gringal wrote:This for you, Casi nada: My request for deletion preceded any replies at all. At least get your facts straight before running your mouse off. Got a problem with the truth?

Did it really? Let me check. Oh oh, a little fib there Gringal. You're request came in the 3rd post, after Slainte39 pointed out: A nice discourse gringal, and probably right on, but doesn't this set yourself up as "lecturer-in-chief, and invite more criticism, deserved or not. The maestra/student, adult/child format doesn't seem to work well on these boards.

But really, who cares what Slainte39 thinks. Just delete the whole thing.


]''Got a problem with the truth?''[/i] No. Unlike some.

And by the way, I love your play on words with ''running your mouse off''. Top rate stuff.

Not so, master troll. I attempted to delete it myself before anyone replied. My 15 minutes was up, so too bad. But you wouldn't have known that, so you are forgiven for trying to twist it around. Before your first volley was sent, I requested that the mod delete it. No luck. What you are saying and quoting should be in the Octagon. I suggest that you take this back where it belongs.

BTW, I don't care if the troops like to play in Spanish. Their prerogative. You don't know who can read Spanish or not, do you?

I love that casi mada said:
"A nice discourse gringal, and probably right on, but doesn't this set yourself up as "lecturer-in-chief, and invite more criticism, deserved or not. The maestra/student, adult/child format doesn't seem to work well on these boards."
Lecturing someone on not lecturing. Nice touch there, casi.

Lady Otter Latté wrote:I love that casi mada said:
"A nice discourse gringal, and probably right on, but doesn't this set yourself up as "lecturer-in-chief, and invite more criticism, deserved or not. The maestra/student, adult/child format doesn't seem to work well on these boards."
Lecturing someone on not lecturing. Nice touch there, casi.

Well, you might love that I said that, but the problem is I didn't say it. Please check your sources and get back to me.

gringal wrote:
BTW, I don't care if the troops like to play in Spanish. Their prerogative. You don't know who can read Spanish or not, do you?

In your case, yes I do.

casi nada wrote:

Lady Otter Latté wrote:I love that casi mada said:
"A nice discourse gringal, and probably right on, but doesn't this set yourself up as "lecturer-in-chief, and invite more criticism, deserved or not. The maestra/student, adult/child format doesn't seem to work well on these boards."
Lecturing someone on not lecturing. Nice touch there, casi.

Well, you might love that I said that, but the problem is I didn't say it. Please check your sources and get back to me.

Slainte made that intelligent comment. Casi Nada followed this with ....whatever.

I don't blame CB for ignoring this stuff.

Be nice folks. Constructive would be nice considering the topic.

Z

Zedinmexico wrote:I don't blame CB for ignoring this stuff.

Be nice folks. Constructive would be nice considering the topic.

Z

...any anything else should go to the Octagon where it belongs.

I said my piece to the Mod. It should have ended there. Go figure.

gringal wrote:

Zedinmexico wrote:I don't blame CB for ignoring this stuff.

Be nice folks. Constructive would be nice considering the topic.

Z

...any anything else should go to the Octagon where it belongs.

I said my piece to the Mod. It should have ended there. Go figure.

It should have ended there. Go figure.

Lady Otter Latté wrote:I love that casi mada said:
"A nice discourse gringal, and probably right on, but doesn't this set yourself up as "lecturer-in-chief, and invite more criticism, deserved or not. The maestra/student, adult/child format doesn't seem to work well on these boards."
Lecturing someone on not lecturing. Nice touch there, casi.

Somebody is infringing on my copyright....sigh!!...I guess I will have to look for Spencer as I will never be able to sort it out...or whom to place a demanda against.

And gringal....I think you should quit throwing gasoline on a fire you are trying put out. Moderators don't know who has been drinking or not and are trying to apply equanimity. Your request for special consideration only fuels the fire you started and promotes your naysayers. Sometimes, medicine just tastes bad, but I don't think you're supposed to spit it out.

Gringal,after more than 5000 posts one would think you would know how things work around here,asking the mods to delete a thread you started in the Octagon is kind of pathetic IMO.