Re: The Drive to Nuevo Vallarta

by seisdedos Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:50 pm

E-raq wrote:
seisdedos wrote:
E-raq wrote:
Bingo. Barra de Navidad, Manzanillo, Cuyatlan, and more, great roads and 3.5 hours on a good day.

Ms Thang wrote:Ah, Cuyatlan...the ugliest beach I have ever seen in my entire life. Black, superfine sand , trash everywhere and just a whole lot of ugly in general.
If you google Cuyitlan you will undoubtably see something about the famous "green wave". If you ask a local about the "ola Verde" they will have no idea what you are talking about.
But if you want a real Mexican experience, go for it. And if you forget your swimsuit, no problemo...when we were there everyone was aswimin in their underwear.

Cuyutlán, ladies.

Yeah dude we know, just being lazy today, and haven't got on those high test cheaters. The 3.75 ones.

Here ya go, Cuyatlán. Happy now?

Yeah, right. Blame it on your goggles.

I'm always happy, sweet cheeks.

by Ms.Thang Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:52 pm

Actually we had a great time in Cuyutlán , Very Happy

It wuz just ugly.

by seisdedos Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:54 pm

Ms.Thang wrote:It wuz just ugly.

You got that right. Ugly town and ugly beach.

by Ms.Thang Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:55 pm

The museum was kinda cool

by E-raq Wed Oct 10, 2012 5:55 pm

seisdedos wrote:
E-raq wrote:
seisdedos wrote:
E-raq wrote:
Bingo. Barra de Navidad, Manzanillo, Cuyatlan, and more, great roads and 3.5 hours on a good day.

Ms Thang wrote:Ah, Cuyatlan...the ugliest beach I have ever seen in my entire life. Black, superfine sand , trash everywhere and just a whole lot of ugly in general.
If you google Cuyitlan you will undoubtably see something about the famous "green wave". If you ask a local about the "ola Verde" they will have no idea what you are talking about.
But if you want a real Mexican experience, go for it. And if you forget your swimsuit, no problemo...when we were there everyone was aswimin in their underwear.

Cuyutlán, ladies.

Yeah dude we know, just being lazy today, and haven't got on those high test cheaters. The 3.75 ones.

Here ya go, Cuyatlán. Happy now?

Yeah, right. Blame it on your goggles.

I'm always happy, sweet cheeks.

And you're looking particularly lovely today in pink, it's your color, just saying. ;-)
I would blame it on the high test pain pills, but didn't take one this afternoon, thanks for the reminder.

Oh yes, now that you are dressed for the occasion, and in a good mood, how about making good on that visit you were promising some time back to a certain parson in a prestigious, ooop's correction, the MOST prestigious neighborhood lakeside.

by seisdedos Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:03 pm

Now you're trying to stir up trouble, aren't you? I've been trying to behave myself.

And that ain't the easiest thing in the world.

by E-raq Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:07 pm

seisdedos wrote:Now you're trying to stir up trouble, aren't you? I've been trying to behave myself.

And that ain't the easiest thing in the world.

I know, you've been a real prince lately, just couldn't help myself after the sweet cheeks comment. I can be bad too.

Anyhow since it is now Happy hour I shall be off to tend to my husband who has un resfriado. Hot toddies tonight.

by Ms.Thang Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:38 pm

Now seis...I know you have something to say about that "Un resfriado" comment...

by johninajijic Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:44 pm

E Raq - I guess you've never been to Manzanillo although you said you've been to Karmina Palace. What great roads? A two lane road most of the way, then you get into the curvy mountains. A 5 1/2 hour drive NOT 3.5 hours and there's always construction. Rte 15 to PV is 4 lanes wide, the autobahn.

Same distance and time to Tenacatita to the Bed Bug Loco dump.

by johninajijic Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:47 pm

CheenaGringo wrote:Amazing to me how much one certain person has to say about this drive without having made the drive himself in 10 years. But there is hope on the horizon since he will be a current expert after this year's drive.

Doesn't matter, has anything changed in 10 years to make the drive faster? NOT. Now do you want to criticize the Admistrator for his answer of 5 1/2 hours? Go find something worthwhile to do.

by johninajijic Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:50 pm

seisdedos wrote:
Ms.Thang wrote:It wuz just ugly.

You got that right. Ugly town and ugly beach.

Like Manzanillo. The town is a slum, at least the part we drove thru.

by johninajijic Wed Oct 10, 2012 6:54 pm

seisdedos wrote:Now you're trying to stir up trouble, aren't you? I've been trying to behave myself.

And that ain't the easiest thing in the world.

Gotta admit, you've been really, really good, almost thought you were on an extended Italy vacation.

I really hope that you enjoyed Italy. Wished I could do that.

by Axixic Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:12 pm

johninajijic wrote:

I really hope that you enjoyed Italy. Wished I could do that.

As do we all, Speed.

by seisdedos Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:22 pm

johninajijic wrote: What great roads? A two lane road most of the way, then you get into the curvy mountains. A 5 1/2 hour drive NOT 3.5 hours and there's always construction. Rte 15 to PV is 4 lanes wide, the autobahn.

The toll road from Guadalajara to Manzanillo is at least 80% 4 lane now. I drive to Barra de Navidad on a regular basis. The only 2 lane part is through the canyon at Atenquique. We made it to Barra in 3 hours and 15 minutes a week ago and Barra is 40 minutes further than Manzanillo. And Cuyutlán is about 20 minutes less than Manzanillo. Heading back to Guadalajara this Sunday and then back to the coast a few days later. I've driven the road well over 100 times. I also used to regularly drive the route through Autlan and even that road is only 4 1/2 hours to the coast.

by viajero Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:46 pm

You could be half the way to the coast in less time than it takes to read all these posts on how to get to the coast.

by sparks Wed Oct 10, 2012 9:21 pm

Ms.Thang wrote:The museum was kinda cool

The Drive to Nuevo Vallarta - Page 2 MVC-821S

http://sparks-mexico.com/Assorted/Cuyutlan/salt-museum/index.html

by Zedinmexico Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:41 am

hockables wrote:
Zedinmexico wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:Easy drive that takes about 5 1/2 hours. You can take the toll roads most of the way. The last part (MX 200) is slow going. You could stop at Tequila or Magdalena on the way.

And don't panic if you have a humongous Scania or Volvo bus on your butt for much of MX 200.
Let them pass but the first time it is a little intimidating. They haul on the curves. Don't drive
MX200 at night also was the advice given me multiple times from multiple sources. Not a bad
road if you are use to curvy mountain roads. If you are not it is very doable but you won't like
it much but you will get there. Just pay attention and get out of the way of the locals and buses.

Z

From Guad to Mx200 Exit.... it's like Nascar on the Toll Road... little bump, a little nudge, being passed at 100mph...
once yer off The Toll Road thru The Coastal Mountains... it's more like Le Mans... running up to 100mph and slowing down to 5mph for the Hair Pin Turns... The Buses make for a friendly distraction!!

Zed... Never been passed by a Bus in my Life....

Good Luck.... and Have Fun!!

I know but you don't drive a 1.4L Nissan Micra LOL.
If you were you would be passed trust me. The buses
have lots more power than I do.

Z

by SunFan Thu Oct 11, 2012 1:52 pm

hockables wrote:
Zedinmexico wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:
Easy drive that takes about 5 1/2 hours. You can take the toll roads most of the way. The last part (MX 200) is slow going. You could stop at Tequila or Magdalena on the way.

And don't panic if you have a humongous Scania or Volvo bus on your butt for much of MX 200.
Let them pass but the first time it is a little intimidating. They haul on the curves. Don't drive
MX200 at night also was the advice given me multiple times from multiple sources. Not a bad
road if you are use to curvy mountain roads. If you are not it is very doable but you won't like
it much but you will get there. Just pay attention and get out of the way of the locals and buses.

Z

From Guad to Mx200 Exit.... it's like Nascar on the Toll Road... little bump, a little nudge, being passed at 100mph...
once yer off The Toll Road thru The Coastal Mountains... it's more like Le Mans... running up to 100mph and slowing down to 5mph for the Hair Pin Turns... The Buses make for a friendly distraction!!

Zed... Never been passed by a Bus in my Life....

Good Luck.... and Have Fun!!

I know but you don't drive a 1.4L Nissan Micra LOL.
If you were you would be passed trust me. The buses
have lots more power than I do.

Z

Reminds me of the first time I drove through the Rockies on the way to Vancouver - 35 years ago. I was chased up the mountains by an 18 wheeler. I couldn't outdistance him.

I was driving a new Corvette!!!

Oh, and many thanks for the driving advice.

SunFan

by E-raq Thu Oct 11, 2012 4:24 pm

johninajijic wrote:E Raq - I guess you've never been to Manzanillo although you said you've been to Karmina Palace. What great roads? A two lane road most of the way, then you get into the curvy mountains. A 5 1/2 hour drive NOT 3.5 hours and there's always construction. Rte 15 to PV is 4 lanes wide, the autobahn.

Same distance and time to Tenacatita to the Bed Bug Loco dump.

It would seem that you in fact are the one who has never visited the Karmina Palace, despite your disparaging post regarding it. I have not only been there once, I have been there 3 times. Once while visiting Colima, we went for a day. The second time we went with the entire family to Las Hadas, and the third time was this latest trip. Now try to talk your way out of this one. BTW, I think Seis knows his way around, or are you about to suggest that he doesn't really own a beach house.

by David Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:22 pm

He apparently hasn't been to Manzanillo in several years. Last time we went it took about 3 hours. Easy drive.

by sparks Thu Oct 11, 2012 5:42 pm

johninajijic wrote:Same distance and time to Tenacatita to the Bed Bug Loco dump.

Even at worst times in 6 years the drive from Melaque to Chapala has never been over 4.5 hours.

And "Bed Bugs"? ... nobody (not many) stays at Tenacatita, it's just (it was) a beautiful day on a beautiful beach

by David Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:07 pm

Obviously you can't, but we did.

by seisdedos Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:10 pm

johninajijic wrote:
There is NO WAY you can drive to Manzanillo from Ajijic in 3 hours, maybe 4.5 at best.

We drove from our home in Providencia in Guadalajara to Barra de Navidad in 3 hrs and 15 minutes, bucko. And its 40 to 45 minutes from Manzanillo to Barra. You do the math, wise guy.

I mean really, how full of shit can one person be?

by E-raq Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:25 pm

johninajijic wrote:
David wrote:He apparently hasn't been to Manzanillo in several years. Last time we went it took about 3 hours. Easy drive.

E Raq and David - We stayed at Karmiona Palace in the year 2010. It took 5.5 hours to get there. There was some construction on the highway, a few delays, but not long ones. The biggest reason I put it down was that they lied and wouldn't change rooms. Also, food, beach (NONE) and shows cannot compare to Occidental that we've gone to for years.

We stayed at Blue Bay Los Angeles (Bed Bug Hotel) in 2011. The bus driver took 5.5 hours to drive there. Maybe bus drivers are inept.

There is NO WAY you can drive to Manzanillo from Ajijic in 3 hours, maybe 4.5 at best.

What in hell are you blathering on about now? There is the pool hamburger and nacho snack bar, plus the Capri, right by the pools which is open for lunch, and so is the main restaurant, the buffet, also next to the pools which is open all day. In the premium lounge you get gourmet food and top brand liquors 24/7. Now tell us again about how you've actually been there why don't you?

We left Manzanillo on Monday, made three stops, one fairly lengthy and were home by 4:15. We left Manzanillo at precisely 12:45. There was some construction in a couple of areas.

Now why don't you tell us how crappy the breakfasts were why don't you?

You are lying here. Not only that but you can't even spell the name right. KARMINA, not Karmiona. Twisted Evil

by David Thu Oct 11, 2012 6:31 pm

Chortle!

by SunFan Thu Oct 11, 2012 7:31 pm

Good Grief!

Did I originally ask for advice on driving to the coast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What is wrong with this forum???????

SunFan

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