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Post by hound dog Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:15 pm

Mainecoons wrote:Just quoting your own words, John. I'm just trying to help you see the impression you are creating with posts like that one.

Go back NOB you pussies!!!
Very Happy


We all know that if John could sell his home in " The Finest Fraccionamiento in All of North America", he´d be the first passenger on the non-stop Pussy Express to California willing to subsist on Spam sammiches and RC Cola ´till he reached Barstow never looking back on ten years in [i]"The Premier Residential Development to Grace the Lake in All of History". [/i


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Post by hound dog Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:33 pm

gringal wrote:John's right. It's nobody's business but his own why he is selling and going NOB. When we make assumptions about other people and they turn out to be wrong......our faces can turn very red.

One friend of mine has a severe medical condition that costs $$$ a month to control. The health insurance covering her and her husband was cancelled, and no way will anyone cover her with her condition. They have moved back to the states to use Medicare. Their very nice home here is up for sale with no takers so far. Pussies? Hardly. Unfortunate......you betcha.


I will remind you gringal, that John instigated this conversation by attacking others with whom he is unfamiliar and calling them "pussies" for desirig to leave Lakeside, a vulgar and inexcusable reference to female genitalia and implying by inference that that reference implies cowardess on the parts of those wishing,as does he fervently, to exit this region no matter the reason for that desire. He set the stage for the debate. Let him live with it. None of us reading these forums knows why John wishes to leave but it is untoward for him to belittle others pursuing the same exit srategy.

Dawg does wish John luck in disposing of his residence during trying times. Dawg ain´t going nowhere except maybe Chiapas or Paris for a while.


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Post by johninajijic Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:35 pm

dawg - SPAM sandwiches, you might eat that crap, but not I. Who said I'm going to Cali? Little do you know.

And instead of insulting the Community where I live, look around Ajijic at where the best houses are in the best locations. There are only about 4 Communities. This is one.
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Post by hockables Tue Dec 20, 2011 5:40 pm

a little spam, a little brie, an olive on a triskit... whatz wrong with that?

beats that goose liver stuff anyday...

when ya go ta france ya get culture... is a herpe a culture?
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Post by hound dog Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:16 pm

[quote="hockables"]a little spam, a little brie, an olive on a triskit... whatz wrong with that?

Actually, that sounds pretty good, Hocks. Try this:

THE ELVIS SAMMICH
Two slices of Wonder Bread (In Alabama AKA "Reglar Bread")
BAMA Peanut Butter - smooth or, for gourmets, crunchy
BAMA Mayonnaise
Bananas to Taste

Make a sammich. Add raw jalapeños for a Latin flare

Do not eat this while sitting on the toilet or you may end up like "The King".
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Post by Parker Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:36 pm

hound dog wrote:
gringal wrote:John's right. It's nobody's business but his own why he is selling and going NOB. When we make assumptions about other people and they turn out to be wrong......our faces can turn very red.

One friend of mine has a severe medical condition that costs $$$ a month to control. The health insurance covering her and her husband was cancelled, and no way will anyone cover her with her condition. They have moved back to the states to use Medicare. Their very nice home here is up for sale with no takers so far. Pussies? Hardly. Unfortunate......you betcha.


I will remind you gringal, that John instigated this conversation by attacking others with whom he is unfamiliar and calling them "pussies" for desirig to leave Lakeside, a vulgar and inexcusable reference to female genitalia and implying by inference that that reference implies cowardess on the parts of those wishing,as does he fervently, to exit this region no matter the reason for that desire. He set the stage for the debate. Let him live with it. None of us reading these forums knows why John wishes to leave but it is untoward for him to belittle others pursuing the same exit srategy.

Dawg does wish John luck in disposing of his residence during trying times. Dawg ain´t going nowhere except maybe Chiapas or Paris for a while.

Now I’ll agree that our memories are not what they used to be but John has already stated that his insurance has become over-whelming, understandable with private insurance can increase 30% per year. His vision was for a short term now he has to look at other options. He wanted and still to be consider upper class (by dollar value only) and now finds himself somewhat he considers “trailer Trash”. Had he not the need to always live in a “premium community” perhaps now he could afford to live in comfort for the duration. I don’t mean to be harsh on John but hopefully other will understand and live within their future means.

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Post by johninajijic Tue Dec 20, 2011 6:50 pm

Parker - To be more accurate, the increase has not been 30% a year. It averages maybe 10%. This year they tried the 30% on us, but we increased the deductible and dropped International Catastrophic coverage which is next to worthless unless you're travelling overseas all the time. The increase was 4%. Our age pushes the premium a little higher each year. An additional cost for me, is my epileptic meds each month, not covered by my policy because it's a pre existing condition, which costs about $ 2,500. US a year. Our difference in medical costs in the States will pay our house taxes.

I'm not going to tell anyone that it's cheaper to live in the States. It's not, but many things are no higher than here. I have done comprehensive studies. We can live there on our SS.
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Post by David Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:29 pm

Where, Arkansas?
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Post by susan Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:03 pm

john, agree about some of the home invasions, i am sure home security was lacking in some of those cases. (alan was a special case, that DOES happen world wide). this does not take away from the savage approach the robbers use in most of the invasions/muggings. & how that approach has escalated, as commonplace. in addition: the comparisons to U.S. crime do not hold water. if someone is 80 lbs over weight, that is dangerous. you can say their neighbor is 100 lbs over weight, the person down the block is 125 lbs over weight & also has heart problems, etc etc. its an idiotic argument. dangerous is dangerous. so i guess 80lbs over weight is fine. (depends upon your perspective). why compare to the worst of the worst? (ok, ajijic is safer than watts? maybe. san juan PR? maybe).

you are not moving to watts, its a non issue. the equation means nothing. & the crime in conn? that was a rare occurrence. (as it was kansas "in cold blood"). people in fairfield county did not pick up & move. they stayed in that town, as they also stayed in kansas, because it was the first & only horrible crime. & no need for 1000 people to assemble to catch the killers. what does THAT tell you? end of case. as for the 6 restaurants closing, there was an article in the chapala review some years ago. maybe 6, 7, 8. do not remember. possibly the town was over saturated. i was not a customer in any of those places so i cant recall the names. when the market collapsed later on, people did not travel as much, new posada was way down in business. as i said many times, there were always too many restaurants. in general, all i have heard since i have come here is complaints about business. (except tango & yoli's hair & a couple others). how many restaurants can do a lunch or dinner (or both) & have a full house? & pay the rent? how many small businesses can compete w/box stores? and last of all when they say "business down" that should mean compared to last year @ this exact time.in any event people have short memories, they will come here.


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Post by canadiangirl Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:11 pm

Good for the aholes buying distressed property in FLA. Sweat your asses off with the humidity and pay $ 500. a month electric bills. Good for the others buying in AZ with extreme heat paying $ 1,000. a month AVERAGE in electric bills. My neighbors lived there for over 20 years.[/quote]


Where pray tell are they living in AZ for $1,000.00 month average. You do realize average would be over 12 months????????

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Post by hound dog Tue Dec 20, 2011 8:12 pm

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I'm not going to tell anyone that it's cheaper to live in the States. It's not, but many things are no higher than here. I have done comprehensive studies. We can live there on our SS.[/quote]


John:

You can lie to yourself all you wish to but for you to mislead folks planning to move down here into believing their cost of living and, especialliy medical care, is anywhere near the cost of living in the United States is a detestable lie. The last thing I want to do is attract more U.S. and Canadian morons down here but back off. Anyone can live here on a tiny fraction of what it takes to live in the United States, an insufferable and disgusting place where´people are impoverished simply by surviving beyond 35. A miserable hellhole represented by the ultra-rich and the acquiescence of the ignorantly oppressed. I am discouraged to see people such as yourself selling your soul to the god of filthy lucre. Shame on you. Dig your sump in the turd hole provided by your supposed benefactors. They wil sluff you off like a turd in a wastebasket.
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Post by martygraw Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:05 pm

Geeese round man, why don't you say what you realy mean? Whats a lucre?
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Post by ferret Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:16 pm

I looked it up. I had heard and used the term before in reference to money but didn't know it's origin.

Lucre

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Lucre, from the Lat. lucrum, meaning gain in terms of money or wealth within the nation.

Often it is used in a negative, as in the phrase “not given to filthy lucre” from the Bible 1 Timothy 3:3.

From this, the term "filthy" became slang for money.
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Post by raqueteer Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:19 pm

hound dog wrote:[
I'm not going to tell anyone that it's cheaper to live in the States. It's not, but many things are no higher than here. I have done comprehensive studies. We can live there on our SS.


John:

You can lie to yourself all you wish to but for you to mislead folks planning to move down here into believing their cost of living and, especialliy medical care, is anywhere near the cost of living in the United States is a detestable lie. The last thing I want to do is attract more U.S. and Canadian morons down here but back off. Anyone can live here on a tiny fraction of what it takes to live in the United States, an insufferable and disgusting place where´people are impoverished simply by surviving beyond 35. A miserable hellhole represented by the ultra-rich and the acquiescence of the ignorantly oppressed. I am discouraged to see people such as yourself selling your soul to the god of filthy lucre. Shame on you. Dig your sump in the turd hole provided by your supposed benefactors. They wil sluff you off like a turd in a wastebasket. [/quote]

Sorry folks, I have to agree with the Dawg here. You absolutely can not live NOB for less. Oh yeah, stick the Canuck comment in the same place you wanted to stick your former secretary's cigarettes. Very Happy

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Post by susan Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:24 pm

john may not be my best friend. but he did say something that was correct. many things here cost the same OR higher. especially things i like & need. i pay more here! also not everyone is from AZ & spends 1000. u.s.d. on air conditioning etc. (thats crazy). people here reference only several sections of the USA. its a huge country. i wish that the it stayed divided, & was divided several x's after that. then i would not wonder, what the hell are they saying?

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Post by hockables Tue Dec 20, 2011 9:32 pm

susan wrote:john may not be my best friend. but he did say something that was correct. many things here cost the same OR higher. especially things i like & need. i pay more here! also not everyone is from AZ & spends 1000. u.s.d. on air conditioning etc. (thats crazy). people here reference only several sections of the USA. its a huge country. i wish that the it stayed divided, & was divided several x's after that. then i would not wonder, what the hell are they saying?

ya know... that last sentence ( or what serves as one of your sentences ) is ironic.... because everyone has been wondering exactly the same thing about the majority of your posts.... not that anyone really cares... snork
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Post by gringal Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:05 pm

John stated his reasons: health issues, way back when.. So what's the problem here? Is is just because you don't like the way John expresses himself? So he's opinionated.
Get over it. We all are.

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Post by hockables Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:07 pm

gringal wrote:John stated his reasons: health issues, way back when.. So what's the problem here? Is is just because you don't like the way John expresses himself? So he's opinionated.
Get over it. We all are.


Beer I'm not...
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Post by gringal Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:11 pm

Hell no, of course you're an exception.
lol!

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Post by johninajijic Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:34 pm

dawg and raqueteer - REREAD MY POST. "I'm not going to tell anyone that it's cheaper to live in the States. It's not, but many things are no higher than here. I have done comprehensive studies. We can live there on our SS."

I DID NOT say it was cheaper to live there!!!! It is more expensive. As for Medical when you're 65, you get Medicare "0 cost". Then you need Medicare Part B at $ 115 per month x 12 = $ 1380. per person. A $ 320 Part B deductible. $ 3,080 for insurance vs. $ 6,500. here. Then you need a MAPD plan for Medicare Advantage and Drugs at "$ 0 Premium per month. $ 15 deductible for reg Doctors and $ 25 deductible for Specialists. Yes Medical will be far cheaper for us there. We can pay property taxes with the difference.

Do yo dare to name what is more expensive here than anywhere NOB. Let me help you out. Electricity is 2 or more times the cost.
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Post by Zedinmexico Wed Dec 21, 2011 7:46 am

Moved to mexico property taxes dropped to 0 from $350, Same health
insurance premium dropped from $180 to $120 (worked for international
company), Insurance dropped from $200 to $50, Fed/State taxes cut
by two thirds. Yes Electricity and wheat thins are very expensive but I
can live without wheat thins and replacing lights/pumps/fridge with
energy saving gear solves the CFL problem. I would have to go back to
work if I wanted to live up in NOB in any place decent. Somehow hanging
out in some old mining town in Arizona wouldn't cut it for me at least. All
prices are in USD per month.

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Post by johninajijic Wed Dec 21, 2011 9:51 am

Zedinmexico wrote:Moved to mexico property taxes dropped to 0 from $350, Same health
insurance premium dropped from $180 to $120 (worked for international
company), Insurance dropped from $200 to $50, Fed/State taxes cut
by two thirds. Yes Electricity and wheat thins are very expensive but I
can live without wheat thins and replacing lights/pumps/fridge with
energy saving gear solves the CFL problem. I would have to go back to
work if I wanted to live up in NOB in any place decent. Somehow hanging
out in some old mining town in Arizona wouldn't cut it for me at least. All
prices are in USD per month.

Z

How about explaining what each of these figures you give are instead of generalizing? No ones property taxes in Mexico are 0. What's the $ 350 for? $ 350 a month for taxes?? What insurance premium dropped? What insurance dropped? I can't imagine any insurance at $ 200 a month.

You can replace all the bulbs you want, it won't make ANY difference. That is the smallest part of your electric bill which is peanuts and you don't leave every light on in your house. Replacing a $ 2,000. refrigerator to have an energy saving one, would take forever to pay for itself and if you're old enough, you might not see the savings. What pumps would you replace? Swimming pool???
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Post by David Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:37 pm

You really don't have a clue do you John? We replaced 6 75W floods in our kitchen with 15W, instead of 450W the kitchen now uses 90. Those 350W/hr we're not using (6hrs/day) equal 63kWhrs or about $25USD per month. That is a significant difference. If you don't want to do the math then don't, just don't bitch about your high CFE bill, it's your own doing.

BTW, anyone who rents doesn't pay property tax.
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Post by Zedinmexico Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:17 pm

johninajijic wrote:
Zedinmexico wrote:Moved to mexico property taxes dropped to 0 from $350, Same health
insurance premium dropped from $180 to $120 (worked for international
company), Insurance dropped from $200 to $50, Fed/State taxes cut
by two thirds. Yes Electricity and wheat thins are very expensive but I
can live without wheat thins and replacing lights/pumps/fridge with
energy saving gear solves the CFL problem. I would have to go back to
work if I wanted to live up in NOB in any place decent. Somehow hanging
out in some old mining town in Arizona wouldn't cut it for me at least. All
prices are in USD per month.

Z

How about explaining what each of these figures you give are instead of generalizing? No ones property taxes in Mexico are 0. What's the $ 350 for? $ 350 a month for taxes?? What insurance premium dropped? What insurance dropped? I can't imagine any insurance at $ 200 a month.



You can replace all the bulbs you want, it won't make ANY difference. That is the smallest part of your electric bill which is peanuts and you don't leave every light on in your house. Replacing a $ 2,000. refrigerator to have an energy saving one, would take forever to pay for itself and if you're old enough, you might not see the savings. What pumps would you replace? Swimming pool???


350USD dollars in US I paid for property taxes per month. I pay 0 here because I rent.
No need for fire insurance, liability bond, all that is left is car insurance and that is $50USD/mo


Well I am an engineer and you are so full of shit regarding this one. 60% of all electricity is lighting. It saves a fortune going to CFL or LED. I paid
$550 for an energy 20CF or so fridge. I replaced the fountain pump with one that used half the electricity. I bought a 52" LED TV that uses 80 watts
when it is on. I can go on and on.

John can't you ask a question in a civilized manner???

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Post by hockables Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:33 pm

Zedinmexico wrote:
johninajijic wrote:
Zedinmexico wrote:Moved to mexico property taxes dropped to 0 from $350, Same health
insurance premium dropped from $180 to $120 (worked for international
company), Insurance dropped from $200 to $50, Fed/State taxes cut
by two thirds. Yes Electricity and wheat thins are very expensive but I
can live without wheat thins and replacing lights/pumps/fridge with
energy saving gear solves the CFL problem. I would have to go back to
work if I wanted to live up in NOB in any place decent. Somehow hanging
out in some old mining town in Arizona wouldn't cut it for me at least. All
prices are in USD per month.

Z

How about explaining what each of these figures you give are instead of generalizing? No ones property taxes in Mexico are 0. What's the $ 350 for? $ 350 a month for taxes?? What insurance premium dropped? What insurance dropped? I can't imagine any insurance at $ 200 a month.



You can replace all the bulbs you want, it won't make ANY difference. That is the smallest part of your electric bill which is peanuts and you don't leave every light on in your house. Replacing a $ 2,000. refrigerator to have an energy saving one, would take forever to pay for itself and if you're old enough, you might not see the savings. What pumps would you replace? Swimming pool???


350USD dollars in US I paid for property taxes per month. I pay 0 here because I rent.
No need for fire insurance, liability bond, all that is left is car insurance and that is $50USD/mo


Well I am an engineer and you are so full of shit regarding this one. 60% of all electricity is lighting. It saves a fortune going to CFL or LED. I paid
$550 for an energy 20CF or so fridge. I replaced the fountain pump with one that used half the electricity. I bought a 52" LED TV that uses 80 watts
when it is on. I can go on and on.

John can't you ask a question in a civilized manner???

Z


All things comparitively speaking... if you have a swimming pool, whirlpool, sauna, side by side fridge & freezer w/ water & ice...and todays electronics, all have stand-by, so they are on, when they are off...lol..... lighting may be a little lower in your percentage of total usage...

I would have though a learned man might have taken this into consideration before stooping to name calling.

Of course there is savings to be had by switching to energy efficient lighting...

I suspect John might have meant something more like... why have a Cadillac and spend yer days look'n for 82 octane fuel....

But in most things... John... yer full o shit...... snork
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Post by Lehrer Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:15 pm

hockables wrote:All things comparitively speaking... if you have a swimming pool, whirlpool, sauna, side by side fridge & freezer w/ water & ice...and todays electronics, all have stand-by, so they are on, when they are off [emphasis Lehrer's] ...lol..... lighting may be a little lower in your percentage of total usage...

I would have though a learned man might have taken this into consideration before stooping to name calling.

Of course there is savings to be had by switching to energy efficient lighting...
Even before coming to Mexico, my wife & I learned to unplug all those appliances that are "on" even when they're "off" -- the internal clocks (which most people don't even need) are sucking juice 24/7 when plugged in. The TV, DVD-player, VHS-player, microwave oven -- all are unplugged when not in use.

Energy-saving bulbs are a no-brainer.

Our biggest user? The refrigerator. On occasion, the washer and the dryer, neither of which is used daily.

Last electric bill? For 55 days, only $226.00 MXN.

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