After Covid Vaccination

Here is a good article from GoodRx about what to expect after you have been vaccinated. It looks like we will be wearing masks for the foreseeable future.

https://www.goodrx.com/blog/wearing-a-mask-after-covid-19-vaccine/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=bz&utm_campaign=20210121_c_newsletter_219


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As a WAG, I'd predict that maybe 75% of the population do NOT know this information. It's probably, "once I get my second shot, I'm home free.... 'cause I'm immune. And I don't care about you because that's your problem."

As another WAG, I'd say that 'we' will still need to be doing the same thing we are doing right now, this time next year... or at least until we get well into the 'Fall' season and see how things are going at that point.

I agree with you. Even after the vaccinations, we are in this for the long haul. We may not see any improvement until 2022.

If 75% of the people take the vaccine the USA should be in good shape by the fall according to Dr. Fauci and others. The problem is a large segment of the US population will not take the shot. We may never achieve 75% in US, Mexico or any where else. There are reports in many hospitals 50% of the staff refuses to take the vaccine. Time will tell but I have my doubts about us achieving herd immunity. The only hope I see is if the government takes measures like you cannot fly unless you have been vaccinated.

I agree.... we'll never reach 75% via vaccinations. We'll just have to reach herd immunity with a lot of unnecessary  deaths plus those who choose not to get the vaccination for whatever reason and succumb and a lot of folks who choose to not mask-up and social distance and get it.

rafterbr wrote:If 75% of the people take the vaccine the USA should be in good shape by the fall according to Dr. Fauci and others.  The problem is a large segment of the US population will not take the shot.  We may never achieve 75% in US, Mexico or any where else.  There are reports in many hospitals 50% of the staff refuses to take the vaccine.  Time will tell  but I have my doubts about us achieving herd immunity.  The only hope I see is if the government takes measures like you cannot fly unless you have been vaccinated.

And here are a couple of reasons why:

“I’m choosing the risk — the risk of having COVID, or the risk of the unknown of the vaccine,” Lu said. “I think I’m choosing the risk of COVID. I can control that and prevent it a little by wearing masks, although not 100% for sure.”

Some of her co-workers have also declined to take the vaccine because they’ve gone months without contracting the virus and believe they have a good chance of surviving it, she said. “I feel people think, ‘I can still make it until this ends without getting the vaccine,’” she said.

Not bright. First, there has never been evidence that vaccines affect pregnancy. Second, "I can still make it"... ? What about your patients?

Make vaccination a requirement for air travel. That will get a lot of naysayers off the fence.

CanuckBob wrote:Make vaccination a requirement for air travel. That will get a lot of naysayers off the fence.

Which one? Moderna??? Sputnik???? Pfizer???? Sino????? Johnson and Johnson?????

Here's a NYT story that debunks the myth of vaccines and pregnancy. (Covid stories are not behind their paywall.)

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/26/opinion/covid-vaccine-rumors.html?campaign_id=2&emc=edit_th_20210127&instance_id=26445&nl=todaysheadlines&regi_id=70443563&segment_id=50352&user_id=113c61034e497bf178766dffc3398218

Playaboy wrote:

CanuckBob wrote:Make vaccination a requirement for air travel. That will get a lot of naysayers off the fence.

Which one?  Moderna??? Sputnik????  Pfizer????  Sino????? Johnson and Johnson?????

Any that are approved.

Tequila until.....

CanuckBob wrote:

Playaboy wrote:

CanuckBob wrote:Make vaccination a requirement for air travel. That will get a lot of naysayers off the fence.

Which one?  Moderna??? Sputnik????  Pfizer????  Sino????? Johnson and Johnson?????

Any that are approved.

The world-wide airline industry trade group IATA is already working on a Vaccine Passport. It will most likely include vaccines approved by WHO, the World Health Organization. I have concerns that Mexico might allow vaccines that are not approved by WHO.

We will see what they do when they do it..but I am not extremely optimistic about the vaccines they will be getting.. TIme will tell..

I don't have a problem with the Chinese or Russian vaccine. I believe both countries are as medically experienced as the US.

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My father worked with the Russian government at one time so  I can tell you I will never trust the Ruian governemnt and the Chinese, even worse and I have family living there.. Speaking about Bejing not Taipei where they have everything under control.. I will only take their vaccine after many people have been vaccinated not at first.

Nothing wrong with their tecnology but they will lie to ave face or be firt and have the country look good.. that is my problem with these countries.

Sure, the governments lie. They all do. But the manufacturers are not the govenment, and their reputations and finances depend on their truthfulness and accuracy.

This is all a fault of the Internet and access to information, as alluded to elsewhere. All my life I took vaccines, starting in kindergarten, when I took a boat trip to Germany as part of an army family, and for every other damn thing that came down the pipeline. No one ever questioned where they came from or their efficacy. Now it's all a huge pile of bullshit, but I continue to have faith, never having faced any detrimental effects.

Well I don't know and that shouldn't be a surprise. The problem is nobody knows. They use words like probably or might which should give you a warning. So what to do? Well I am going to get the vaccine and take a chance I won't grow a third arm in the next few years (humor). What you do is your own business but don't tell me we know because we don't.

Example
So and so vaccine will probably work on the mutant strains.
You may be able to spread the virus even if you have the vaccine and wait the waiting period.

We just don't know so we use weasel words.

Zed, much of this is just 'cover you ass' wording, no?

The speed with which these vaccines have been produced is mind blowing. Usually, science is painstakingly methodical and plods along at a very slow pace. Even getting published papers translated into other languages can take a lot of time.
I am hoping to get a vaccine that has been produced by a company that has been forthright and open in its trials and evaluations. There is always the possibility of having an abnormal reaction. C'est la vie.

... or maybe 'Es la vida'.

Zedinmexico wrote:Well I don't know and that shouldn't be a surprise.  The problem is nobody knows.  They use words like probably or might which should give you a warning.  So what to do?  Well I am going to get the vaccine and take a chance I won't grow a third arm in the next few years (humor). What you do is your own business but don't tell me we know because we don't.

Example
So and so vaccine will probably work on the mutant strains.
You may be able to spread the virus even if you have the vaccine and wait the waiting period.

We just don't know so we use weasel words.

But I am not saying anything like that. I am saying there has never been a vaccine yet that caused problems in any significant way. Vaccines work differently than many other kinds of medicines and shots. I am also saying, that without the excess of information these days, I doubt anyone would question a new vaccine.

CanuckBob wrote:I don't have a problem with the Chinese or Russian vaccine. I believe both countries are as medically experienced as the US.

Also not exactly good friends in terms of world domination.

Playaboy wrote:

CanuckBob wrote:Make vaccination a requirement for air travel. That will get a lot of naysayers off the fence.

Which one?  Moderna??? Sputnik????  Pfizer????  Sino????? Johnson and Johnson?????

Why don´t you ask Trump, he´s the expert on Covid treatment?

Bad Slainte. No uttering the "T" word.........