Re: More on the virus

by Jreboll Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:54 pm

I’m not in the Chapala area right now so I got my zinc at a health food store near where I live here in Texas

by CanuckBob Fri Jul 03, 2020 5:49 pm

Trailrunner wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:The US had over 104,000 new cases in the past 24 hours. Holy crap!!!
The US is also reporting the pts are younger and sicker.

No doubt since those young dimwits are having covid parties and betting on who gets it first. They should also give odds on which one of them die first too!!!!

by Trailrunner Fri Jul 03, 2020 6:14 pm

Yep.
Young people think they are invincible.

by ferret Fri Jul 03, 2020 7:08 pm

https://us.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/07/03/canada-flattens-coronavirus-curve-newton-newday-vpx.cnn

by gatosigi Fri Jul 03, 2020 8:42 pm

Re. Zinc supplements. I went looking for zinc picolinate on internet sites, hoping to help keep Covid at bay, and found that a typical capsule is 50 mg. This is above the recommended tolerable upper intake and there are warnings that extended use of high amounts can lead to copper deficiency. Zinc is also provided by whole milk, cheese, eggs, dark chocolate, beef and other red meats, pumpkin seeds, nuts and other foods and most people get enough in their diet.
https://www.webmd.com/vitamins-and-supplements/supplement-guide-zinc#1
https://www.mayoclinic.org/drugs-supplements-zinc/art-20366112
https://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/minerals/zinc
https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/best-foods-high-in-zinc
The tolerable upper intake level (recommended) is 40 mg, recommended daily amount: 8 mg for women, 11 mg for men.
"Long-term consumption of zinc in excess of the tolerable upper intake level (UL; 40 mg/day for adults) can result in copper deficiency."
So a little caution should be taken.

by Jreboll Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:21 pm

You’re right about that but Linus Pauling Institute of OSU goes on to say:
“Supplementation with doses of zinc in excess of the UL is effective to reduce the duration of common cold symptoms. The use of zinc at daily doses of 50 to 180 mg for one to two weeks has not resulted in serious side effects. (More information)”
Thanks for bringing that up.

by mudgirl Fri Jul 03, 2020 10:22 pm

One tablespoon of pumpkin seeds has 1 mg. of zinc.
Here's something interesting- in women, zinc is distributed evenly throughout the body. In men, 80% of the zinc is stored in the prostate. Perhaps men who get prostate problems are low in zinc.
It also prevents hair loss.

by BisbeeGal Sat Jul 04, 2020 6:27 am

Per La Pagina, stats as of July 3rd

PÁGINA Que sí se lee

#ULTIMAHORA

Este viernes 3 de julio, ni #Chapala ni #Jocotepec registraron casos, por lo que se mantienen en 33 y 43 casos, respectivamente. #IxtlahuacánDeLosMembrillos registra dos casos y llega a 34.

| This Friday, July 3, neither #Chapala nor #Jocotepec registered cases, so they remain in 33 and 43 cases, respectively. Ixtlahuacán De Membrillos registers two cases and reaches 34.

by ferret Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:06 am

Supposed stats for Friday, July 3rd, 2020

by BisbeeGal Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:22 am

Fascinating story of autopsy results Covid victims,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/07/01/coronavirus-autopsies-findings/?fbclid=IwAR2vTt__s0e8nkQ-69qXgrio2rwD9puSHLdnJYU0poRizlW23_vA3KQ4eF8

by ferret Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:31 am

I'm in the middle of the article just posted by BisbeeGal. For those who don't have a Washington Post subscription, read it here...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/coronavirus-autopsies-a-story-of-38-brains-87-lungs-and-42-hearts/ar-BB16dALn

by ferret Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:53 pm

by ferret Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:40 pm

Dr. Sanjay Gupta is not happy...

https://us.cnn.com/2020/07/03/health/covid-patient-fourth-of-july/index.html

by Jreboll Sat Jul 04, 2020 3:50 pm

But, it didn’t have to be this way. I hope one of these days someone publishes an investigative report on this whole fiasco.

by BisbeeGal Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:34 am

From La Pagina Newspaper, English from google translate,

PÁGINA Que sí se lee

#ULTIMAHORA

A #Chapala se le restó un caso duplicado y acumula 32 casos del nuevo Coronavirus (Covid-19). #Jocotepec no sumó casos nuevos esté sábado 4 de julio y se mantiene en 43. #IxtlahuacánDeLosMembrillos sigue en 34 casos acumulados.

A duplicate case was subtracted from #Chapala and it accumulates 32 cases of the new Coronavirus (Covid-19). #Jocotepec did not add new cases this Saturday, July 4 and remains at 43. #Ixtlahuacán De Membrillos continues in 34 accumulated cases.

by Jreboll Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:10 am

Something else to worry about:
https://www.axios.com/scientists-coronavirus-airborne-6ef97ac2-fd16-4cb1-a458-664c965e003c.html

by ferret Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:43 am

I don't have electricity. Using this website on a cell phone is like milking a mouse.
Maybe tomorrow.

by Trailrunner Sun Jul 05, 2020 12:03 pm

Jreboll wrote:Something else to worry about:
https://www.axios.com/scientists-coronavirus-airborne-6ef97ac2-fd16-4cb1-a458-664c965e003c.html

I have been assuming this all along! Haven't you?

by ferret Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:18 pm

I am hooked up to my little Jackery generator now.
Supposed stats for Saturday, July 4th...

by Jreboll Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:51 pm

I once saw a study where they placed persons with the flu at various distances from uninfected persons to determine when contamination occurs. They determined that two persons have to be very close to each other because a large enough viral load has to find its way into the other person to infect him. However this virus is much more virulent and spreads more rapidly.

by BisbeeGal Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:33 am

Cases as of July 5 reported in La Pagina newspaper from Radar Jalisco. Deaths remain at 2 each in Chapala and Ixtlahuacan; 4 in Jocotepec.

PÁGINA Que sí se lee
6 hrs ·

Ni #Chapala ni #Jocotepec registraron casos nuevos este domingo 5 de julio, por lo que siguen con 32 y 43 casos confirmados acumulados de Covid-19, respectivamente. #Ixtlahuacán De Los Membrillos pasa de 34 a 35 casos.

Neither #Chapala nor #Jocotepec registered new cases this Sunday, July 5, so they continue with 32 and 43 confirmed cases of Covid-19, respectively. #Ixtlahuacán De Los Membrillos goes from 34 to 35 cases

by ferret Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:17 am

Supposed stats for Sunday, July 5th, 2020

by ComputerGuy Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:04 am

This effectively means there are no active cases in Chapala, correct?

by ferret Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:17 am

According to these stats, there are no active cases in Chapala.
Please note that there are 10 that are suspicious. I don't know if they are waiting for test results or what.
The other thing is that I suspect any cases that require hospitalization are whisked away to Guadalajara and become one of their stats not ours.

by CanuckBob Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:23 am

Well they did finally add my friends Dad that passed away but not the Mother who was asymptomatic.

by ferret Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:27 am

I think the other way round happened CBob. The Dad died in Guad in a hospital and the asymptomatic mother stayed at home so she was counted here.

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