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Re: NOT that any of you are interested but...
You definitely have to draw a line after mj, and especially about meth. Saying someone made a deliberate decision is a cop out for inaction to help someone who lacks the maturity or is subject to peer pressure to make good decisions. Education should be part of the solution but stricter enforcement is needed as well....and now. Education is long term.
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I do get the hypocracy of supporting one drug and suppressing another but I have seen the damage done.
This discussion makes me squirm somewhat.
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This discussion makes me squirm somewhat.
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Zedinmexico wrote:I do get the hypocracy of supporting one drug and suppressing another but I have seen the damage done.
This discussion makes me squirm somewhat.
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Squirm? Why? This is a big problem all over the place. Some drugs are much worse than others, so where should the line be drawn? That seems to be the question.
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I don't feel qualified to set the line thus my squirm. I am just uncomfortable to say this is OK and this is bad.
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CanuckBob wrote:brigitte wrote:I do not think there is a solution unless you have a dictatorship like the Chinese. When it came time to deal with opium they gave as much as they wanted to the old folks who ended up dying a little sooner..and sent all the young folks that wer users to work camps and that took care of the problem..
I do not know about opium but I do know several people who got off heroin cold turkey and they told me it was the most horrible thing they had ever experienced.
I think a whole lot more programs need to be put him place for people who want to get off.
I know a young man here in Ajijic who was a heavy meth user and he totally lost his mind and had to go to an institution. He ended up getting out of it , he is now clean but his mind is gone. It is very sad to see how quickly he lost it.
I agree meth should not be legal amd their should be place where the addicts could be put in until they are clean..forget the jails those do not help.
Meth is the scourge of the drug world and producers/dealers of this product should be given the maximum penalty that the country allows. And because of it's low cost and lengthy high it has become the drug of choice for the poorer youth in this area. I see this crap all over the place at the local bars.
Correct about Ajijic. There is a dealer for meth 500 ft away from my house.
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They need to make the crimes done while under the influence of the "baddies" carry more jail time.
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Meth grabs you fast and hard. Yes, I believe it is the worst for crime. It makes people relentless and crazy, for days on end. Eats your body and soul. But cramming prisons full of the addicts does not seem to be the answer, if there is one.
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In LA ,the bank robbery capital of the world, 8 out of 10 of the robberies were commited by heroin addicts,then came the crack epidemic,then came meth,there doesn't seem to be an answer,but making those drugs legal would be a disaster in my opinion.nthensome wrote:Meth grabs you fast and hard. Yes, I believe it is the worst for crime. It makes people relentless and crazy, for days on end. Eats your body and soul. But cramming prisons full of the addicts does not seem to be the answer, if there is one.
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viajero wrote:In LA ,the bank robbery capital of the world, 8 out of 10 of the robberies were commited by heroin addicts,then came the crack epidemic,then came meth,there doesn't seem to be an answer,but making those drugs legal would be a disaster in my opinion.nthensome wrote:Meth grabs you fast and hard. Yes, I believe it is the worst for crime. It makes people relentless and crazy, for days on end. Eats your body and soul. But cramming prisons full of the addicts does not seem to be the answer, if there is one.
I agree with your opinion on legalization of these drugs. What are your feelings on legalization pot described by some as a gateway drug?
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I don't entirely buy the gateway scenario and pot smokers aren't known for robbing,mugging or beating their wives/children etc.
I think pot should be legal,just my opinion.
I think pot should be legal,just my opinion.
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viajero wrote:I don't entirely buy the gateway scenario and pot smokers aren't known for robbing,mugging or beating their wives/children etc.
I think pot should be legal,just my opinion.
You would be content with your child's cardiac surgeon being a regular pot user?
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My mother cardiac surgeon who is a well known surgeon and he could not operate for several months: he got really drunk while at a convention, got up in the middle of the night in his hotel room to go to the bathroom, opened the window and fell out of the second floor..We are all humans including surgeons. He is the best surgeon in the region and people pay extra to have him as a surgeon, just hope he is over is hangover when he operates on you.
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artesialulu wrote:viajero wrote:I don't entirely buy the gateway scenario and pot smokers aren't known for robbing,mugging or beating their wives/children etc.
I think pot should be legal,just my opinion.
You would be content with your child's cardiac surgeon being a regular pot user?
I actually know a neurosurgeon in Seattle, now retired, that smoked pot all through med school, his residencies and while he practiced his craft. Not while operating of course but preferred a reefer to a martini after work.
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artesialulu wrote:viajero wrote:I don't entirely buy the gateway scenario and pot smokers aren't known for robbing,mugging or beating their wives/children etc.
I think pot should be legal,just my opinion.
You would be content with your child's cardiac surgeon being a regular pot user?
Yep, I would prefer that ten fold over a drinker.
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artesialulu wrote:viajero wrote:I don't entirely buy the gateway scenario and pot smokers aren't known for robbing,mugging or beating their wives/children etc.
I think pot should be legal,just my opinion.
You would be content with your child's cardiac surgeon being a regular pot user?
I'd be more concerned that my child's cardiac, or neuro, surgeon was a science denier.
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Yeah,I really can't get my head around that one.ltollefs wrote:
I'd be more concerned that my child's cardiac, or neuro, surgeon was a science denier.
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viajero wrote:Yeah,I really can't get my head around that one.ltollefs wrote:
I'd be more concerned that my child's cardiac, or neuro, surgeon was a science denier.
Has to be the epitome of tunnel thinking.
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viajero wrote:Yeah,I really can't get my head around that one.ltollefs wrote:
I'd be more concerned that my child's cardiac, or neuro, surgeon was a science denier.
He does not deny all science, just some. Remember when it was scientifically proven that bumblebees can't fly? Science is fluid, changing this way and that over time. Think of the flat earth science, the earth is the center of the universe, etc.
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He claims that human life started six thousand years ago....sounds like flat earth science to me.artesialulu wrote:viajero wrote:Yeah,I really can't get my head around that one.ltollefs wrote:
I'd be more concerned that my child's cardiac, or neuro, surgeon was a science denier.
He does not deny all science, just some. Remember when it was scientifically proven that bumblebees can't fly? Science is fluid, changing this way and that over time. Think of the flat earth science, the earth is the center of the universe, etc.
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What is the actual answer? I don't know. Or perhaps he is just wrong. Flat earth science seems to me to mean an erroneous belief system more than merely a factual error.
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Ben Carson has an erroneous belief system. He is not making an occasional factual error. He also lies a lot and appears to be a little crazy.
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