Double murder robbery in La Floresta?

I don't buy the inference that there may be more to this than it appears, just because the couple was beaten.  

There have been other home invasions in Ajijic in the past where the homeowners were beaten by the robbers to try to get more info out of them regarding ATM card, location of safes in house, hidden money in house, keys to cars, etc.  

In one case about 2 years ago, the homeowner was taken from the home invaded, to an ATM to w/d money; he had been beaten at the home, as was his wife.  

Very sad troubling news, especially as it comes on the heels of another home invasion attempt in Ajijic where the homeowner was shot in the leg, just last week.

Hopefully they can get DNA and people will tell the MP investigators what they know and hopefully..they can catch who ever did this. Pretty sad altogether.

I did not know they were using dna. I don't recall it being mentioned by press reports.  Have there been any recent documentation in the Lake Area specifically?

http://www.theguadalajarareporter.com/news/news/lake-chapala/43503-canadian-couple-beaten-to-death-in-ajijic

Never believe everything you read in the newspapers.

Nina Discombe and her partner Eddie (Eduardo) have been Canadian snowbirds to Ajijic for about 8 years. They were lovely people, talented, kind, and very involved in their lives here.

Nina came much earlier this time and bought the house in La Floresta. Eduardo stayed behind to have surgery and only returned a couple of weeks ago.

Rest in peace, Nina and Eduardo you didn't deserve this and you will be profoundly missed.

That's just awful. I really hope they catch these vicious people. This is a new low for the area.

Thank you, Trailrunner.

LaChula wrote:Why is the fact that Eduardo moved there a red flag?

As I mentioned above - we DON'T KNOW enough to draw any conclusions as yet. It is simply a red flag because it is a significant change in the status quo that occurred relatively close to the incident and therefore could be significant. (How did he move? Was he assisted in moving and by whom? Etc.) Not all red flags are evidence but they need to be considered.

Well, then Axixic maybe you should stop speculating yourself. There may be relatives reading this, and perhaps you should try to show a little respect.

There were LOTS of outsiders in town for the festivities this weekend ... could be a relationship there??

lotusflower wrote:Well, then Axixic maybe you should stop speculating yourself.  There may be relatives reading this, and perhaps you should try to show a little respect.

You misunderstand me - I am advocating for calm and patience with the process. Sensationalization is the very opposite of what I would like to see occur. And I have nothing but respect and sympathy for the victims and their family - this is a tragedy in every sense of the word.

But it is a tragedy that occurred in OUR community and, naturally, our community is interested and concerned. Is it an isolated incident? Is it random? Are there lessons for the rest of us to learn from this incident?

I reiterate - we don't know. Perhaps we never will know. But calm, rational discussion is not disrespect.

The things that Axixic is saying what any investigator on a case like this would first consider. This is a huge shock for the community, everyone hopes for answers.
We know that there have been armed robberies / home invasions lately. It's too bad that it takes something like this to get attention from the authorities to this problem . We have seen this very scene played out before.

lotusflower wrote:That's just awful. I really hope they catch these vicious people. This is a new low for the area.

Not so new. There was the elderly couple (German man, Mexican wife) beaten to death in Hotel Chapala Haciendas, and later the American man and his Mexican friend beaten to death in Mirasol. Those incidents both happened within the last two years, I believe.

Has anyone heard anything about arrests or convictions in these two cases?

Tried to update the last post with dates and links, but couldn't.

The Hotel Chapala Haciendas double murder was in July 2012. The Mirasol incident was February 2013. So this is the third double homicide affecting the local ex-pat community in 19 months.

Link to the second incident (the injured man died without regaining consciousness):
http://theguadalajarareporter.com/news/news/lake-chapala/41647-mexican-man-murdered-expat-housemate-injured-in-riberas-del-pilar

lotusflower wrote:Well, then Axixic maybe you should stop speculating yourself.  There may be relatives reading this, and perhaps you should try to show a little respect.

This is a little harsh, as Axixic, who has a police investigative background, is thinking logically as opposed to many here who commenting out of pure emotion.
It was a thinking person's comment.

Sticking to the original OP.........Another (maybe rumor) I heard is that the homeowner had recently complained about the treatment of some animals by two construction workers at a job next door. Apparently those two workers were fired from their job. I post this because, if true, I hope the investigators will hear the same thing and follow up with this lead. I understand that the MP reads these forums to gain as much insight as possible.

Trailrunner wrote:Never believe everything you read in the newspapers.

Nina Discombe and her partner Eddie (Eduardo) have been Canadian snowbirds to Ajijic for about 8 years.  They were lovely people, talented, kind, and very involved in their lives here.

Nina came much earlier this time and bought the house in La Floresta.  Eduardo stayed behind to have surgery and only returned a couple of weeks ago.

Rest in peace, Nina and Eduardo you didn't deserve this and you will be profoundly missed.

Were there other discrepancies in the newspaper reports?.....as Informador, Milenio, Mural all seemed to carry about the same information.

CanuckBob wrote:Sticking to the original OP.........Another (maybe rumor) I heard is that the homeowner had recently complained about the treatment of some animals by two construction workers at a job next door. Apparently those two workers were fired from their job. I post this because, if true, I hope the investigators will hear the same thing and follow up with this lead. I understand that the MP reads these forums to gain as much insight as possible.

It widens the range of motives from purely robbery...all leads, such as this, should be followed up on, even if they wind up being dead ends....it's just good police work.

slainte39 wrote:

CanuckBob wrote:Sticking to the original OP.........Another (maybe rumor) I heard is that the homeowner had recently complained about the treatment of some animals by two construction workers at a job next door. Apparently those two workers were fired from their job. I post this because, if true, I hope the investigators will hear the same thing and follow up with this lead. I understand that the MP reads these forums to gain as much insight as possible.

It widens the range of motives from purely robbery...all leads, such as this, should be followed up on, even if they wind up being dead ends....it's just good police work.

Anyone remember Alan Turnipseed, who was murdered in San Antonio about three or four years ago? The former police chief (Contreras) admitted at a public meeting that the police knew who to search for due to the chatter they read on the expat forums at the time...and they found him. So keep up the good work in this case.

Playaboy wrote:I really hate to say this but the reality of Mexico is that the "Police" won't catch them, they never do.

Murder Conviction rate

I agree that Mexico's homicide clearance rate (actually, the clearance rate for all crime) is abysmal. But keep in mind that a huge part of the case load is from cartel-related activities which are "clearance resistant" to coin a phrase. I have met Mexican police who were very professional and capable investigators. And although they may not have the technological support that police NOB enjoy they do have some methods available to them that are NOT available to their northern brethren.

We can hope.

i see that on the other board they have locked the topic....typical..

The MP has access to print experts and can request DNA tests as well so we can hope the police will do whatever they can and in this case I believe they will.
 
They have solved crimes in the past not all but some so hopefully they will this time.

You know, on TOB it says our chief of police is Ernesto Robles (in the canadian article referenced). I thought Ramon Arcos was our chief of police? I can't say I've heard the name Ernesto Robles before. Can anyone clarify?

hickton wrote:i see that on the other board they have locked the topic....typical..

Which other board? You can send me a PM if you can't mention it here.

chapala.com AKA TOB is the other board. It not being named is sort of a running joke here.
I am surprised the thread on this crime was allowed to go as long as it did over there. The administrator of TOB does not like bad news, anything that would reflect poorly on the idea of foreigners purchasing homes here. May have something to do with it being run by a real estate company.
Luckily, we have this board which allows us to communicate with each other about pretty much anything.