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those 2 states are important routes and producers for the cartels and until the autodefensas were formed were operating with impunity not just for the drug business but raping,pillaging,killing ,stealing land, timber and ore thanks to the collusion of every level of gummint there. check around senor v,other states are mucho fekked up too and there are also states where the people finally got fed up with the status quo. sometimes this only happened in municipalities as opposed to the whole state. yes the autodefensas have been infiltrated by criminals of all stripes.viajero wrote:The auto defense leaders, the cartels,the government...they're all pendejos,imo.
And you have to wonder why states like Michoacan and Guerrero are so f"#$%$ up,when others aren't.
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Smartalex wrote:Well, if we're going to discuss the past, I might as well drag this out of the Alexander archives. I'm sure some people will find this quite informative.
A Brief History of Mexico
Part Five: The Rise and Fall of the PRI
By Steven Alexander
After 50 years of self-destructive civil war, 30 years of brutal dictatorial rule and 20 years of bloody revolution…Mexico needed a break. That break came in 1929, when the National Revolutionary Party (PNR) took control of the federal government, finally bringing the revolution to an end. Much like the Democratic Party in America, the PNR was a “big tent” that included all the various and diverse racial, social and economic groups of Mexico. They agreed to fight for their special interests within the party and not in the streets or on the battlefield. The PNR later changed its name to the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) and ruled Mexico for a total of 71 consecutive years. Every six years, a new presidential successor would be chosen by the party leadership and then confirmed by the rubber stamp of a public election. With overwhelming popular support and only token dissent, the PRI created what has often been characterized as “the perfect dictatorship.”
In 1934, Lazaro Cardenas became president of Mexico. At the time, Cardenas was a 39-year-old veteran of the revolution and former governor of Michoacan. He had gained the trust and respect of the Mexican people due his reputation as an honest politician. Under his guidance, Mexico instituted a series of socialist reforms that truly changed the country. The large ranchos were broken up and the land was redistributed to the “campesinos” (peasant farmers) for use as “ejidos” (communal farms). A public education system was built to benefit the children of all classes. The railroads, telephones and utilities were nationalized. The holdings of the powerful American and British oil interests were confiscated and turned over to Pemex (Petroleos Mexicanos), the government-owned monopoly that still controls oil production and distribution in Mexico. Freedom of expression, religion and the press were not only guaranteed by the constitution but encouraged by Cardenas during his six years in office.
Over time, the PRI became increasingly separated from the goals of the revolution and the example of honest government set by Cardenas. The party built a political machine that ran Mexico like the Democrats ran Chicago. “La mordida” (the bite) became a way of life. Cops, judges, municipal officials, union leaders, legislators and presidents all took a bite of the apple in the form of bribes, kickbacks and payoffs. Embezzlement, extortion and fraud within the various governmental entities were commonplace. Proceeds from drug trafficking not only fattened the wallets of the PRI pols but helped spur the economy as a whole. The entire country was on the take. Mexicans didn’t necessarily make a value judgment when it came to all of this graft and corruption. Right or wrong, that’s the way it was. It was how “el sistema” (the system) worked. It took a series of tragic events over a long period of time in order to shock the Mexican people out of their complacency.
The first shock came in 1968. In that year, the international student movement was at its peak. There were student demonstrations throughout Europe, the U.S. and Latin America. In Mexico City, massive demonstrations broke out just days prior to the opening ceremonies of the Summer Olympics, which were being hosted in the Mexican capital. The whole world was watching as Mexican army troops and federal police opened fire on a crowd of students gathered at a public plaza in the Tlateloco section of Mexico City to protest against police brutality and repression of dissent. Officially, the government claimed 40 students were killed. The demonstrators claimed thousands were dead. Subsequent investigations place the death toll at around 400. The Mexican people never forgave the government for killing their children.
Then there was the earthquake of 1985. A giant 8.1 tremblor struck off the Pacific Coast of Mexico but did most of its damage in Mexico City, which was largely built on unstable landfill in Lake Texcoco. An estimated 10,000 people died and sections of the city were flattened. Although no one could hold the government to blame for the earthquake, they found plenty to blame in the mismanagement of the relief effort that followed. Relief aid was doled out according to your standing within the PRI. The higher your position in the party, the more aid you received. People who did not belong to the party got no aid at all.
And then there was the shock of Carlos Salinas de Gortari. Salinas was elected president in 1988 in a disputed election. The new computer system that was installed to count the voting quickly and accurately mysteriously “crashed” on the night of the election. Years later, Miguel de la Madrid, Salinas’ predecessor as president, admitted that election officials shut down the computer and declared Salinas the winner when early returns indicated he would lose.
Government corruption reached a peak during Salinas’ six years in office. His brothers quickly became very wealthy, with foreign bank accounts stuffed with hundreds of millions of dollars from unexplained sources. One brother, Raul, had his $110-million Swiss account frozen. Most of the money was later returned to the Mexican government once they were able to satisfy Swiss authorities that the money was misappropriated from public coffers. Raul also spent 10 years in a Mexican prison after being convicted of ordering the murder of Jose Ruiz Massieu, then head of the PRI and Salinas’ former brother-in-law. Another brother, Enrique, was found dead in Mexico City. His cause of death was asphyxiation by a plastic bag taped firmly over his head. At the time of Enrique Salinas’ death, he was under investigation by French authorities for money laundering. Raul has since been released from jail, pending his appeal. Investigation continues by Mexican, U.S., French and Swiss authorities into the financial dealings of the three Salinas brothers and the numerous allegations of their involvement in drug trafficking.
Salinas was a big booster of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA). According to Salinas, in order to comply with the terms of NAFTA, the ejido lands that were used for communal farming needed to be privatized. The constitutional provisions that guaranteed communal use of these ancestral farmlands were amended and ownership was divvied up among those with hereditary claims to the lands. Once NAFTA went into effect, the campesinos found that they could not compete with large-scale agribusiness and the introduction into Mexico of cheap American corn. Much of the ejido lands were sold to agribusiness corporations and the farmers migrated to the cities or to the U.S. The populations of Mexican cities mushroomed and what was once a steady trickle of illegal immigration into America became a flood.
On Januray 1, 1994, the day that NAFTA went into effect, the Zapatista Army of National Liberation (EZLN) arose in armed resistance to the federal government of Mexico. With the overwhelming support of the local native population, the Zapatistas actually took control of San Cristobal de las Casas and several small villages in Chiapas. They overran a small military post, chased out the government officials and set up their own civil administration. The Zapatista ideology was a mixture of Marxism and Nativism. Their heroes were Che Guevara, Emiliano Zapata and Maria Sabina. They demanded autonomy from the federal government and the right to preserve their ancestral way of life, including communal farming.
The immediate reaction of the Salinas regime was massive armed retaliation against the 3,000-man (and woman) Zapatista army. But the wholesale slaughter of indigenous people who were struggling for their land rights was unacceptable to the vast majority of Mexicans and yet another example of how far the PRI had strayed from the goals and aspirations of the revolution. Bowing to public pressure, the government agreed to a ceasefire after 12 days of intense blood-letting. The Mexican army retook the city of San Cristobal but allowed the Zapatistas some measure of autonomy over a small area in Chiapas. The shaky truce has held for most of the past 15 years. The Zapatistas now use the media and the Internet in a nonviolent effort to press for reforms that would give more autonomy to the native people of Mexico. The hooded Zapatista spokesman, Subcomandante Marcos, is considered a heroic figure by many Mexicans.
Perhaps the biggest shock of all was the assassination of Luis Donaldo Colosio in 1994. It was an election year and Colosio was chosen as the presidential candidate of the PRI. The 44-year-old Colosio was young and handsome, intelligent and well educated. He had a beautiful wife and two lovely children. Colosio claimed he would clean up the government, prosecute corrupt officials and make Mexico a decent place for people of all races, religions and classes to live and raise a family. The comparisons to John Kennedy were unavoidable. For one brief shining moment, the Mexican people actually had someone they could believe in. Then, on March 23, 1994, at a campaign rally in Tijuana, Colosio was shot in the head with a .38 caliber handgun at point blank range.
Who killed Colosio? Mario Aburto Martinez, a 23-year-old factory
worker with no motive, is serving a 45-year sentence as the official lone perpetrator of the crime. But few Mexicans accept the lone-gunman theory. The autopsy indicates there were two bullet wounds…coming from two different directions. A suspected second gunman was arrested by Tijuana police the day of the murder…and then released within 24 hours. Three members of Colosio’s private security detail were later arrested as conspirators in the crime…and released 10 months later without charges ever being filed. The Tijuana chief of police was assassinated shortly after announcing he would pursue his own investigation into the crime…one of more than 20 people connected to the assassination who have since been murdered. There are many more unanswered questions about who killed Colosio. If you ask Mexicans who did it, most will tell you it was “el sistema.”
In a close but relatively legitimate election, the PRI’s replacement candidate, Ernesto Zedillo Ponce de Leon, was elected president in 1994. An economist by trade, the 43-year-old Zedillo was certainly an intelligent and well-meaning man. But he took control over a government in turmoil and a country in crisis. Not only did he have to deal with an armed insurgency in Chiapas, the scandals involving the Salinas brothers and the fallout from the Colosio assassination but, within a month of taking office, the Mexican economy collapsed. The time had come to repay the excessive borrowing of the Salinas regime…and Mexico was broke. The peso took a nosedive, losing half its value. Zedillo arranged for a $50-billion bailout from the U.S. and the International Monetary Fund (IMF). Although the economy recovered and the bailout was repaid ahead of schedule, the PRI had lost all credibility with the Mexican people. After 71 years of continuous one-party rule, the time had come for a change.
Next Month: Part Six: Democratization
________________________________________
Steven Alexander is a former journalist and award-winning sports writer. He is retired and lives in Ajijic.
was this ever really published outside of your own "archives" and why can none of us find anything about a steven alexander on the www? how's that for credibility ,trailrunner?
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Trailrunner wrote:Well, the fact that you refuse to acknowledge the man is a respected physician, forces me to put you over into the Not Credible column. Sorry. Additionally, when asked for credibility and sources it's best not to start your response with. . ."There is no question that. . ." I'm afraid that cements you into my Not Credible column.
Viajero, you have a good point.
Let me remind you that this so-called "respected physician" has spent three years in prison for narcotics trafficking, was prosecuted in the U.S. for practicing medicine without a license, is currently being held in a maximum security prison on charges of possessing high-powered automatic weapons reserved exclusively for use by the military and is under investigation for the murder of five people, including a 13-year-old child. Oh yeah...lots of credibility there.
There is no question that Mireles was in command of El Platano's unit the day of the attack at Chuquiapan. He admits it.
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A debate that's going nowhere, except for the participants, who are already there.
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"A debate that's going nowhere, except for the participants, who are already there."
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And if Mireles is charged and convicted of ordering the attack that resulted in the five deaths, his defenders will still claim he was innocent and the victim of a government plot.
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And if Mireles is not charged or not convicted of ordering the attack that resulted in the five deaths, his opponents will still claim he was guilty. This is the point Slainte was making.
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yes to your first part but i think what slainte meant is the point of view of steven alexander[alex] and those of us who have other points of view debating nowhere.Lady Otter Latté wrote:And if Mireles is not charged or not convicted of ordering the attack that resulted in the five deaths, his opponents will still claim he was guilty. This is the point Slainte was making.
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Yes. What I meant was the sides (both sides) have been chosen and the debate can go on forever with no minds being changed.
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Lady Otter Latté wrote:And if Mireles is not charged or not convicted of ordering the attack that resulted in the five deaths, his opponents will still claim he was guilty. This is the point Slainte was making.
I'm perfectly willing to accept the decisions of the prosecutor and the courts in this matter. At this point, I'm just glad to know that El Platano is being brought to justice and that there is an ongoing investigation. I thought this case was closed...had no idea the government has been pursuing El Platano all these months...didn't know they cared.
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The infamous Dr. Mireles may be getting out of jail. A federal judge has issued an amparo in the case of Mireles' bodyguards, citing violations of their civil rights at the time of their arrest last June and granting them a rehearing. According to Mireles' former attorney, Talia Vazquez, Mr. Mireles is indirectly included in the amparo since they were arrested together. Government prosecutors have 10-15 days in which to respond. From Proceso...
Tribunal concede amparo contra orden de aprehensión de Mireles
http://www.proceso.com.mx/?p=400535
Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.proceso.com.mx%2F%3Fp%3D400535
Tribunal concede amparo contra orden de aprehensión de Mireles
http://www.proceso.com.mx/?p=400535
Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.proceso.com.mx%2F%3Fp%3D400535
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Rodrigo Vallejo, son of former Michoacan governor Fausto Vallejo, is also getting a rehearing. El Gerber, as he is more affectionately known, has been in jail since last August for the crime of "concealment" for refusing to talk. Mr. Gerber was arrested after a video surfaced of him and La Tuta engaged in casual conversation. From El Universal...
Recibe amparo hijo de Fausto Vallejo; podría ser liberado
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/2015/impreso/recibe-amparo-hijo-de-fausto-vallejo-podria-ser-liberado-98531.html
Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eluniversal.com.mx%2Festados%2F2015%2Fimpreso%2Frecibe-amparo-hijo-de-fausto-vallejo-podria-ser-liberado-98531.html
Recibe amparo hijo de Fausto Vallejo; podría ser liberado
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/2015/impreso/recibe-amparo-hijo-de-fausto-vallejo-podria-ser-liberado-98531.html
Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eluniversal.com.mx%2Festados%2F2015%2Fimpreso%2Frecibe-amparo-hijo-de-fausto-vallejo-podria-ser-liberado-98531.html
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Where do they come up with these ridiculous nicknames?Smartalex wrote:Rodrigo Vallejo, son of former Michoacan governor Fausto Vallejo, is also getting a rehearing. El Gerber, as he is more affectionately known
Is he fond of baby food?
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The apodo is quite appropriate. Rodrigo has a chubby little baby face, just like the one on the Gerber label.
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Okay,I googled his image and there is a resemblance,that's probably why he grew a beard.Smartalex wrote:The apodo is quite appropriate. Rodrigo has a chubby little baby face, just like the one on the Gerber label.
But you've got to admit that there are some pretty funny apodos out there.
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El Gerber is free on bail after posting a 7000-peso bond. He has already served nine months in prison for a relatively minor crime and will probably remain free regardless of the outcome of the rehearing of his case.
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El Gerber's claims that he was kidnapped and threatened by La Tuta may have fallen apart. The federal prosecutor's office has leaked some still photos of Mr. Gerber and Mr. Tuta, indicating that their relationship was a lot closer than what Mr. Gerber's defense has claimed. From El Universal...
Revelan 5 mil horas de videos de "La Tuta" y sus encuentros
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/nacion-mexico/2015/impreso/revelan-5-mil-horas-de-videos-de-8216la-tuta-8217-y-sus-encuentros-225055.html
Google tranlation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eluniversal.com.mx%2Fnacion-mexico%2F2015%2Fimpreso%2Frevelan-5-mil-horas-de-videos-de-8216la-tuta-8217-y-sus-encuentros-225055.html
Revelan 5 mil horas de videos de "La Tuta" y sus encuentros
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/nacion-mexico/2015/impreso/revelan-5-mil-horas-de-videos-de-8216la-tuta-8217-y-sus-encuentros-225055.html
Google tranlation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eluniversal.com.mx%2Fnacion-mexico%2F2015%2Fimpreso%2Frevelan-5-mil-horas-de-videos-de-8216la-tuta-8217-y-sus-encuentros-225055.html
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The video of La Tuta and El Gerber together has been leaked to Televisa. There's a link to the full program at the bottom of the news story. From El Universal...
Publican nuevo video de Rodrigo Vallejo con "La Tuta"
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/2015/publican-nuevo-video-de-rodrigo-vallejo-con-la-tuta-1094296.html
Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eluniversal.com.mx%2Festados%2F2015%2Fpublican-nuevo-video-de-rodrigo-vallejo-con-la-tuta-1094296.html
Publican nuevo video de Rodrigo Vallejo con "La Tuta"
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/2015/publican-nuevo-video-de-rodrigo-vallejo-con-la-tuta-1094296.html
Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eluniversal.com.mx%2Festados%2F2015%2Fpublican-nuevo-video-de-rodrigo-vallejo-con-la-tuta-1094296.html
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The infamous Dr. Mireles will not be getting out of jail after all. The federal prosecutor has filed an appeal to the amparo that would have given him his freedom. This process will keep him locked up in a maximum security prison for at least another four months. From El Universal...
PGR apela amparo en pro de Mireles
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/2015/mireles-pgr-1094689.html
Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eluniversal.com.mx%2Festados%2F2015%2Fmireles-pgr-1094689.html
PGR apela amparo en pro de Mireles
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/2015/mireles-pgr-1094689.html
Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eluniversal.com.mx%2Festados%2F2015%2Fmireles-pgr-1094689.html
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Malaysia is going to execute 3 brothers from Sinoloa by hanging for manufacturing meth in a clandestine lab, the brothers claim that they were just hired for cleaning the premises,jaja,what a defense,like Malaysia has to import housekeepers from Mexico...
That sort of draconian sentencing in Mexico might be effective in deterring narco activiity.I'm not saying that it would be right,but it probably would be effective.
That sort of draconian sentencing in Mexico might be effective in deterring narco activiity.I'm not saying that it would be right,but it probably would be effective.
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Hanging might work for the small fry and the bosses could make a bundle selling the rope. Sounds about right
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oncesubtle wrote: the bosses could make a bundle selling the rope.
Especially if it's (hemp rope).
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Televisa has broadcast some new and possibly incriminating videos of Rodrigo Vallejo, El Gerber. One video shows Mr. Gerber having an intimate conversation with Templarios leader La Tuta. The other shows Mr. Gerber being given some special treatment when entering a jail in order to speak with a detainee. The detainee is not identified. Mr. Gerber's defense against charges of collusion with organized crime is based upon his assertion that he was kidnapped and unwillingly brought to meet with La Tuta. The videos seem to indicate that he was willingly cooperating with the Templarios. The federal prosecutor has announced that a new investigation into his activities has begun. From Televisa...
Nuevos videos de Rodrigo Vallejo y 'La Tuta'
http://noticieros.televisa.com/mexico/1504/nuevos-videos-rodrigo-vallejo-tuta/
Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnoticieros.televisa.com%2Fmexico%2F1504%2Fnuevos-videos-rodrigo-vallejo-tuta%2F
Nuevos videos de Rodrigo Vallejo y 'La Tuta'
http://noticieros.televisa.com/mexico/1504/nuevos-videos-rodrigo-vallejo-tuta/
Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fnoticieros.televisa.com%2Fmexico%2F1504%2Fnuevos-videos-rodrigo-vallejo-tuta%2F
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Looks like Mr. Gerber is headed back to the slammer. From Quadratin...
Niegan amparo a Rodrigo Vallejo
http://www.quadratin.com.mx/principal/Niegan-amparo-Rodrigo-Vallejo/
Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quadratin.com.mx%2Fprincipal%2FNiegan-amparo-Rodrigo-Vallejo%2F
Niegan amparo a Rodrigo Vallejo
http://www.quadratin.com.mx/principal/Niegan-amparo-Rodrigo-Vallejo/
Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.quadratin.com.mx%2Fprincipal%2FNiegan-amparo-Rodrigo-Vallejo%2F
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Well, they certainly took their time about it...but Rodrigo Vallejo has been rearrested and returned to jail. He will probably be facing some new and perhaps more serious charges this time. We'll see.
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