Templarios

Some 44 people were arrested on weapons charges following the confrontation in Apatzingan that left nine people dead on January 6. One of the 44 has been identified as Jesus Mendez (El Chuchin), son of El Chango Mendez, one of the founders of La Familia Michoacana. From Proceso...

Capturan a “El Chuchín”, hijo de “El Chango Méndez”, en operativo de Apatzingán
http://www.proceso.com.mx/?p=392606&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+revista_proceso+%28Revista+Proceso%29

Google Translation:
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What actually happened in Apatzingan? Well, reports remain sketchy, including this Associated Press article that tries to put it all together. From El Universal...

Clashes in Michoacán call government strategy into question
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/in-english/2015/clashes-michoacan-strategy-99971.html

A judge has ordered the release of 38 of the 44 "armed civilians" who were arrested on January 6 in Apatzingan, finding there was insufficient evidence to hold them for trial. The Mexican Commission on Human Rights announced it is investigating the event. From El Universal...

Dejan libres a 43 detenidos por tiroteo en Apatzingán
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/2015/libres-apatzingan-tiroteo-1069234.html

Google Translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eluniversal.com.mx%2Festados%2F2015%2Flibres-apatzingan-tiroteo-1069234.html

And here's an unedited video, taken by a surveillance camera, of the shootout. From You Tube...

According to this video, they were aggressively approaching the convoy from the rear.
What did they expect?....to be welcomed with abrazos?

It was announced today that Alfredo Castillo will step down from his position as the federal commissioner for security in Michoacan. From El Universal...

Alfred Castillo dejará de ser comisionado en Michoacán
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/nacion-mexico/2015/comisionado-michoacan-1070976.html

Google Translate:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eluniversal.com.mx%2Fnacion-mexico%2F2015%2Fcomisionado-michoacan-1070976.html

Mr. Castillo has certainly taken a lot of criticism during his one-year reign as commissioner for security in Michoacan. Most of the the criticism claims he has often acted in an arbitrary and autocratic manner that exceeded his authority. He was nicknamed "The Viceroy" by his detractors. Perhaps in response to his critics, Mr. Castillo sang a karaoke version of A Mi Manera at his recent going away party. From El Universal...

Difunden video de Castillo cantando A mi manera
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/2015/castillo-video-a-mi-manera-1071216.html

Google Translate:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eluniversal.com.mx%2Festados%2F2015%2Fcastillo-video-a-mi-manera-1071216.html

(Note: The video will only play in the original El Universal link.)

Here's another audio recording from La Tuta. In it, he condemns the Sierra Santana brothers (Los Viagras) as a bunch of thieves, kidnappers and extortionists. Mr. Tuta goes on to say that he's sorry that he ever met them. My guess is that the Sierra Santana brothers are not that fond of Mr. Tuta either. From Michoacan 3.0...

Estoy arrepentido de conocer a Los Viagras: La Tuta #Audio
http://michoacantrespuntocero.com/estoy-arrepentido-de-conocer-a-los-viagras-la-tuta/

Google Translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fmichoacantrespuntocero.com%2Festoy-arrepentido-de-conocer-a-los-viagras-la-tuta%2F

La Tuta was arrested in Morelia. Here's the news story from El Universal. For more details on La Tuta, see the thread titled "caught a criminal" on this webboard or the front page of the New York Times website.

'La Tuta' is under arrest
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/in-english/2015/mexico-michoacan-la-tuta-servando-gomez-martinez-arrest-102189.html

Here's some instant analysis on the prospects of life after Templarios in Michoacan. From InsightCrime...


Mexico Captures 'La Tuta' but Michoacan Struggles On
http://www.insightcrime.org/news-analysis/mexico-captures-la-tuta-but-michoacan-struggles-on

Here's Mr. Tuta's mugshot. I see he got he got a shave and a haircut. Anyone wanna argue that he was purposely humiliated by having his head and face shaved? Or call for a human rights investigation?

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ahem!  short stache and goatee gone is all. his head ain't shaved like doctor mireles' was if that's what yer trying to allude too. it's quite clear from past pics of the guy that he kept what little hair he had short unlike some others with male pattern baldness who do the comb over thing.

yes he's a real murdering criminal so he don't get shaved like a political prisoner.

Smartalex wrote:Here's Mr. Tuta's mugshot. I see he got he got a shave and a haircut.

What the murderous little bastard ought to get is a tejuacanazo,an ahogadita and a little chicharra treatment...

Before and after pics seem to indicate that Mr. Tuta not only had his moustache and beard shaved off, but even got a further razor trimming of what little hair he had on his head. No rational person would make the claims that Pedro does.

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an irrational claim by pedro.

Pedro wrote:an irrational claim by pedro.

Indeed!

Hipolito Mora and Luis Antonio Torres (El Americano) have been released from prison, where they have been held following a shootout in La Ruana that left 11 people dead last December. At the same time, it was announced that former Autodefensas leader Gabriel Caballero Farias (El Platano) has been arrested in the United States, where he fled following a confrontation at a roadblock in Chuquiapan that left five people dead last April. From El Universal...

Cerados, casos Hipólito y 'El Americano': Procuaduría estatal
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/estados/2015/procuraduria-michoacana-respetara-decision-de-juez-hacia-autodefensas-1083898.html

Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eluniversal.com.mx%2Festados%2F2015%2Fprocuraduria-michoacana-respetara-decision-de-juez-hacia-autodefensas-1083898.html

Here's a little more info on the capture of El Platano. According to Michoacan state prosecutor José Martín Godoy Castro, once Mr. Platano is extradited to Mexico, he will be questioned about the involvement of the infamous Dr. Mireles in the attack on the roadblock in Chuquiapan that left five people dead, including a 13-year-old child. It was reported at the time that Mireles ordered Platano to attack the roadblock while Papa Pitufo was desperately trying to reach the scene in order to stop him. From Cambio de Michoacan...

Cae ex colaborador de Mireles por 5 muertos en tiroteo de Chuquiapan
http://www.cambiodemichoacan.com.mx/nota-248603

Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cambiodemichoacan.com.mx%2Fnota-248603

Well, El Platano was extradited from the U.S. and promptly sent to a Mexican prison. There are a lot of unanswered questions here; however, some things are becoming more clear. The unarmed kids who were attacked at the roadblock in Chuquiapan were not Templario assassins. They were local kids trying to earn a few pesos by manning a known Autodefensas checkpoint. They were attacked by professional criminals under the command of the infamous Dr. Mireles. From Animal Politico...

Dictan auto de formal prisión contra presunto asesino de cinco autodefensas
http://www.animalpolitico.com/2015/03/dictan-auto-de-formal-prision-contra-presunto-asesino-de-cinco-autodefensas/

Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.animalpolitico.com%2F2015%2F03%2Fdictan-auto-de-formal-prision-contra-presunto-asesino-de-cinco-autodefensas%2F

bull shit! there is no mention of the "criminals" being under the command of dr. mireles who was one of the legitimate founders of the autodefensas. when are you going to stop slandering him-eh!

Please answer that question, Alex. And with links other than MX gov owned press and links. Something credible, please.

Trailrunner wrote:Please answer that question, Alex. And with links other than MX gov owned press and links. Something credible, please.

right on!!! and as i said, after reading both the original and google translation in this story,there is NO mention of dr. mireles whatsoever so again why do you insist on slandering him ad infinitum in this lengthy thread senor alex alleged journalist?

Trailrunner wrote:Please answer that question, Alex. And with links other than MX gov owned press and links. Something credible, please.

There is no question that El Platano's unit was under Mr. Mireles' command at the time of the attack on the roadblock at Chuquiapan. Mr. Mireles has admitted that much. Mireles arrived on the scene shortly after the attack and was photographed posing with one of the dead men. Mr. Mireles' role in the attack has been under investigation by the state prosecutor since the attack took place last April. Whether or not Mireles specifically ordered El Platano to attack the roadblock has yet to be determined. If he ordered El Platano to attack, he is legally culpable for murder. Now the prime suspect in the attack has been captured and is under arrest. According to the state prosector, he will be questioned about who ordered him to attack. Mr. Mireles has repeatedly stated, "I did not order an advance."

The auto defense leaders, the cartels,the government...they're all pendejos,imo.
And you have to wonder why states like Michoacan and Guerrero are so f"#$%$ up,when others aren't.

DR. mireles did not "pose" as you and gummint controled media suggest but was holding up the head of one the dead for the coroner to take a picture of the corpses face. that was established long ago after the "viceroy's" attempt to discredit the DOCTOR.why are you afraid to answer trailrunner's question?-SNORK!
you have established many times that your opinion is irrelevant when it comes to anything about DOCTOR mireles including your latest rant on a story that doesn't even mention him.yes i can read the spanish version and there is no mention in the google translate,either. so trailrunner has asked-some links,por favor. perhaps you would be better served by merely supplying links without comment.your bias is as plain as the nose on your face.

Well, the fact that you refuse to acknowledge the man is a respected physician, forces me to put you over into the Not Credible column. Sorry. Additionally, when asked for credibility and sources it's best not to start your response with. . ."There is no question that. . ." I'm afraid that cements you into my Not Credible column.

Viajero, you have a good point.

viajero wrote:The auto defense leaders, the cartels,the government...they're all pendejos,imo.
And you have to wonder why states like Michoacan and Guerrero are so f"#$%$ up,when others aren't.

those 2 states are important routes and producers for the cartels and until the autodefensas were formed were operating with impunity not just for the drug business but raping,pillaging,killing ,stealing land, timber and ore thanks to the collusion of every level of gummint there. check around senor v,other states are mucho fekked up too and there are also states where the people finally got fed up with the status quo. sometimes this only happened in municipalities as opposed to the whole state. yes the autodefensas have been infiltrated by criminals of all stripes.