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Rave Rally Outcome?

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Post by lotusflower Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:30 pm

You should provide proof before making such allegations. I call bullshit on your home invasions, and store swarming...ridiculous. How can you tell it wasn't related to the cartel activity in the area? for the example the seven severed heads recently found in Joco? Is that the Rave as well?

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Post by slainte39 Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:55 pm

lotusflower wrote:You should provide proof before making such allegations. I call bullshit on your home invasions, and store swarming...ridiculous. How can you tell it wasn't related to the cartel activity in the area? for the example the seven severed heads recently found in Joco? Is that the Rave as well?

I'm with you lotusflower...too much heresay, chisme, urban gossip, etc.
Public lewdness, home invasions, vandalism, robberies.......
How much/many were reported and documented....verified.  How many witnesses were sworn to testimony.
This is village street talk that nobody can refute because it's now been planted in the minds of many who weren't even there.
I'll believe it when I see it....and that's too late now.
This has become exacerbation at it's finest.

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Post by LaChula Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:35 am

Probably if you know people who live in the 6 Esquinas area, you would have heard it from the "horses' mouths." You probably don't live here or do not have contacts in the Mexican community.

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Post by slainte39 Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:55 am

If there isn't some official action of arrests or denuncias being filed for illegal activities by someone, and someone being convicted of same, all you have is a lot of heresay evidence, which I take with a grain of salt. Much the same as when I read about a group of people that see an UFO.....they saw something.
I am no proponent for "raves" and if there was never another one in the world I could care less. It's just that the hype of the behaviour of the participants for this unpopular event was going over the top without more substantiation than so called " I heard from someone accounts"

I live here, I am the Mexican community, and my son and his family (who are also Mexican, and I surprisingly have contact with  Rolling Eyes ) lives between Calle Rio Zula and Calle Linda Vista, near the lake.
How close were you?

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Post by mielicita Wed Jul 10, 2013 12:03 pm

slainte39 wrote:If there isn't some official action of arrests or denuncias being filed for illegal activities by someone, and someone being convicted of same, all you have is a lot of heresay evidence, which I take with a grain of salt. Much the same as when I read about a group of people that see an UFO.....they saw something.
I am no proponent for "raves" and if there was never another one in the world I could care less. It's just that the hype of the behaviour of the participants for this unpopular event was going over the top without more substantiation than so called " I heard from someone accounts"

I live here, I am the Mexican community, and my son and his family (who are also Mexican, and I surprisingly have contact with  Rolling Eyes ) lives between Calle Rio Zula and Calle Linda Vista, near the lake.
How close were you?
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When a friend calls to tell me that she sees a strange man on a wall three houses over, and then hears gun shots, and the estatales are beginning to swarm you get it from the source.  The rest of the story is that the second man is in the small garden at the back, the friends who live there are on the floor as the shots are occurring.....the police get both men.  This, in Six Corners....and then others call to tell you they are disgusted by the filth from 'gente cagando e orinando, ebrios, donde quiera' in the same area....and yes most of the calls and later discussions are regarding their ire at the filth, the traffic, the drunk and drugged kids and maybe not so kids lurching around etc.   10% of the calls and discussions were with expats, the rest with Mexicans.   And, yes, I am fluent in Spanish and like La Chula, quite involved in the local community.  I may have posted elsewhere that I sent an email complaint to our Presidente on behalf of myself and forty Mexican neighbors..I just happened to have an iPad in my hand at the moment.

Lovely lady lotus flower, you live in lala land, and I expect some of us know you...you've done a good job of changing your syntax, but you're still the misinformed silly woman you always
have been.  Ferias, fiestas, etc do regretfully attract a criminal element taking advantage of the chaos and of course it's absolutely possible that there were cartel members active in some way, most probably the narco menudistas selling to the crowds...the petty stuff that went on really more likely drugged, drunken attendees. We personally saw drunks being picked up in front of farmacias......and elsewhere. And there were state police all over.

slainte, you know very well that most people are not going to file official denuncias. But in a community the size of our pueblo, chatter moves quickly....and is usually largely based in reality.

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Post by mielicita Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:57 pm

lotusflower wrote:You should provide proof before making such allegations. I call bullshit on your home invasions, and store swarming...ridiculous. How can you tell it wasn't related to the cartel activity in the area? for the example the seven severed heads recently found in Joco? Is that the Rave as well?


You can call BS all you want, however small abarrotes or tiendas in the area were overwhelmed....confirmed. And btw you give yourself away every time dear lotus; the seven severed heads were not found in Jocotepec, but in Zacoalco de Torrres.

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Post by slainte39 Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:50 pm

Most poeple?...but not any people??  Confirmed?...confirmed by whom to who? Your friends to you?  Wonder if you have an agenda? To me it smacks of Dead Horse 
There were a lot of criminal charges mentioned in the post....
Robberies...home invasions...vandalism...public lewdness?...drug sales and use.
not to mention graffitti, drunkedness, public urinating and defecating.

But if they are satisfied with their recall of their witnessing of events that night...sea lo que sea.
And I don't know lotusflower or care who it is.

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Post by kipissippi Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:44 pm

lotusflower wrote:You should provide proof before making such allegations. I call bullshit on your home invasions, and store swarming...ridiculous. How can you tell it wasn't related to the cartel activity in the area? for the example the seven severed heads recently found in Joco? Is that the Rave as well?

I've known LaChula for a very long time and have NEVER known her to bullshit. You on the other hand....
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Post by LaChula Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:33 pm

If you were to go to the Delegacion and speak to Hector, and he told you the truth, would you believe him?
BTW, you said you could care less. REALLY, how much less could you care, a little less, a lot less? The correct expression is I COULDN'T care less.

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Post by ComputerGuy Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:00 pm

To the one poster, there are already noise laws in place about when the party has to stop. But no one patrols looking for offenders (thank goodness).

As long as we're having grammer lessons: how about "Would you like to come with?" popularized by Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Used to be "Would you like to come with US". About now, I could care.
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Post by LaChula Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:20 pm

Grammar has gone to hell in a handbag. Off topic, but I will vent...
This is WRONG: "She invited my wife and I"
"The food was for we and them"
Just a couple of examples, but would they say, She invited I? The food was for we?

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Post by Zedinmexico Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:22 pm

LaChula wrote:Grammar has gone to hell in a handbag.  Off topic, but I will vent...
This is WRONG: "She invited my wife and I"
                         "The food was for we and them"
Just a couple of examples, but would they say, She invited I?  The food was for we?
         

 Keep it to yourself but you can't right?

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Post by LaChula Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:39 pm

I have too go home to sea about wich dog is barking.

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Post by lunateak Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:14 pm

Rolling Eyes 
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Post by LaChula Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:43 pm

yep!

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Post by slainte39 Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:03 am

LaChula wrote:If you were to go to the Delegacion and speak to Hector, and he told you the truth, would you believe him?
BTW, you said you could care less.  REALLY, how much less could you care, a little less, a lot less?  The correct expression is I COULDN'T care less.

When it comes to "raves", I could care less, but I'm not quite sure how to quantify the amount of lesser care that it would drop to...very subjective. If you have a formula to determine the amount of, or lack of, care...I'm willing to learn.   Very Happy

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Post by Zedinmexico Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:37 pm

LaChula wrote:I have too go home to sea about wich dog is barking.

 I think you meant to say witch not wich. See you can't spell either.

Z

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Post by Chapala Payaso Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:45 pm

Zedinmexico wrote:
LaChula wrote:I have too go home to sea about wich dog is barking.

 I think you meant to say witch not wich. See you can't spell either.

Z

Maybe see rather than sea?

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Post by hockables Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:54 pm

Chapala Payaso wrote:
Zedinmexico wrote:
LaChula wrote:I have too go home to sea about wich dog is barking.

 I think you meant to say witch not wich. See you can't spell either.

Z

Maybe see rather than sea?

.......... Si........ Beer 
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Post by ComputerGuy Thu Jul 11, 2013 12:56 pm

=sigh=
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Post by kipissippi Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:58 pm

HelperGuy wrote:=sigh=

Double that.
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Post by LaChula Thu Jul 11, 2013 4:07 pm

Triple.

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Post by LaChula Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:24 pm

TRYING AGAIN:


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Post by Bob Bender Thu Jul 11, 2013 6:28 pm

HelperGuy wrote:=sigh=

=pheeeerrrrrttttttt=

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Post by slainte39 Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:29 pm

HelperGuy wrote: But no one patrols looking for offenders (thank goodness).

Does the name George Zimmerman, ring a bell?   lol!

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