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Post by Pedro Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:00 am

2 people hit by car. at least one foreigner. one not moving. 2 cruz ambulances. this happened about 15 minutes ago.
i ain't going to go look close.
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Post by Hensley Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:33 am

One was Charlie who works for Cruz.
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Post by Pedro Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:45 am

Hensley wrote:One was Charlie who works for Cruz.
how do you know this and if so how is he?
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Post by Hensley Sun Jun 02, 2013 11:54 am

They called me trying to get in touch with his wife.
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Post by ferret Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:01 pm

Please let these people be OK. Charlie must have an angel watching over him for all the good work he does for Cruz Roja. Sending positive vibes.
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Post by Trailrunner Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:10 pm

Noooooooooooooooooooooo.
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Post by Pedro Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:27 pm

confirmed. he is stable. someone will pick up his car.
the little car wash guy is the other victim.
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Post by Bob Bender Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:39 pm

Is the car wash guy OK? No one seems too concerned about him.

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Post by ferret Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:40 pm

And the car wash guy, is he stable too? He is always such a gentleman and helps my hubby get in and out of the car.
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Post by Pedro Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:46 pm

he has upper body injuries and in pain but seems ok. i know him well and it seems like he has more lives than a cat.
last time he got hurt,he fell out of a tree he was trimming for a friend and broke his leg and a rib. couldn't work for 6 weeks. so he's going to need money to eat and maybe somebody to pay for his x-rays and treatment at cruz.
why don't you step forward, bob bender!


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Post by slainte39 Sun Jun 02, 2013 12:48 pm

Bob Bender wrote:Is the car wash guy OK? No one seems too concerned about him.

I'm sure we are concerned....how not to be?
A remark that was a little crass, when Pedro only posted it at 12:27 pm.
It's like the victims of any disaster or accident...people usually focus on the ones they know...not that they don't care or are not concerned about the others.

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Post by Jim W Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:05 pm

They have taken Charlie to San Javier Hospital in GDL.
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Post by Bob Bender Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:19 pm

Pedro wrote:he has upper body injuries and in pain but seems ok. i know him well and it seems like he has more lives than a cat.
last time he got hurt,he fell out of a tree he was trimming for a friend and broke his leg and a rib. couldn't work for 6 weeks. so he's going to need money to eat and maybe somebody to pay for his x-rays and treatment at cruz.
why don't you step forward, bob bender!

In what way shall I step forward? I am currently living near Manzanillo. Isn't treatment at the Cruz Rojo free to those who don't have the means to pay?

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Post by Bob Bender Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:20 pm

slainte39 wrote:
Bob Bender wrote:Is the car wash guy OK? No one seems too concerned about him.

I'm sure we are concerned....how not to be?
A remark that was a little crass, when Pedro only posted it at 12:27 pm.
It's like the victims of any disaster or accident...people usually focus on the ones they know...not that they don't care or are not concerned about the others.

I apologize. All previous posts contained no mention of this poor soul. Friends?

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Post by Hensley Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:34 pm

Late this morning, Sunday June 2nd. Charlie and a Mexican man were hit by a drunk driver, while driver was on his cell phone and swerving back and forth while trying to cross the street. The driver fled the scene, but the police caught him and he is now in jail!

Both Charlie and the Mexican man were taken to Cruz Roja (Dr. Sam on duty). The Mexican man is less seriously injured. Charlie has a broken pelvis in 2 places, a deep gash and severe head concussion and other minor scrapes. Dr. Sam was unable to see any internal bleeding in the head impact area, but an MRI in Guadalajara will tell what is occurring in greater detail. When I was there he was semi conscious and they were preparing the paper work and stabilizing him for immediate transport to a private hospital in Guadalajara where a trauma team is waiting as well as his regular doctor.

Ann is with him and will follow in her car. Personally don't believe the gravity of the situation has hit her yet. I mentioned to both of them that many at lakeside will be praying for them.


Above is all I know until I hear from Ann later this pm. We may need blood donors and I will let you know.
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Post by Jim W Sun Jun 02, 2013 1:50 pm

Hensley wrote:Late this morning, Sunday June 2nd. Charlie and a Mexican man were hit by a drunk driver, while driver was on his cell phone and swerving back and forth while trying to cross the street. The driver fled the scene, but the police caught him and he is now in jail!

Both Charlie and the Mexican man were taken to Cruz Roja (Dr. Sam on duty). The Mexican man is less seriously injured. Charlie has a broken pelvis in 2 places, a deep gash and severe head concussion and other minor scrapes. Dr. Sam was unable to see any internal bleeding in the head impact area, but an MRI in Guadalajara will tell what is occurring in greater detail. When I was there he was semi conscious and they were preparing the paper work and stabilizing him for immediate transport to a private hospital in Guadalajara where a trauma team is waiting as well as his regular doctor.

Ann is with him and will follow in her car. Personally don't believe the gravity of the situation has hit her yet. I mentioned to both of them that many at lakeside will be praying for them.


Above is all I know until I hear from Ann later this pm. We may need blood donors and I will let you know.


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They took Charlie to San Javier Hospital in GDL.
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Post by Pedro Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:45 pm

manuel is the little guys name and he's going to be released shortly but will probably need money to eat
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Post by Pedro Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:51 pm

charlie's car has now been towed away to safety
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Post by joyfull Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:56 pm

Pedro...if Manuel isn't working how will we find him to give him some pesos? Any ideas on that?
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Post by Hensley Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:59 pm


Just talked with Ann.

VERY good news. No swelling in major head bump, but close observation for a couple of days. Double pelvis break did not knock things out of line so NO surgery is planned. He needs a replacement pint of A+ to be drawn at San Javier in his name tomorrow. (Ann took his phone away from him----wise decision on her part)

If you can do it, please email me pifernr@gmail.com Based on general response, will have more than he needs, so will take first reply and advise others if not needed.

Kassiers are headed to Guadalajara to pick up Ann and return her to lakeside. Charlie's car is off the street.

Young Mexican who was injured (bumps and bruises) may need a little financial help so if you would like to, place a few pesos in envelope indicating "Injured Mexican 6/2/2013" and drop off at Cruz Roja LCS table or Chapala clinic and we will get it to him.
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Post by Pedro Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:22 pm

joyfull wrote:Pedro...if Manuel isn't working how will we find him to give him some pesos? Any ideas on that?
i am finished with this, ask ferret
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Post by ferret Sun Jun 02, 2013 8:23 pm

The info is in Julie Hensley's post immediately above Pedro's.
You can drop off an envelope to Cruz Roja table at the LCS or at Cruz Roja (Clinic) and label it "Injured Mexican 6/2/13". His name is Manuel if you want to add that too.
Anyone know what time Cruz Roja table is open for business at LCS...

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