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Farmed Salmon vs. Wild

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Post by hockables Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:18 pm

HelperGuy wrote:Sorry, you lost me completely now.


Beer
Not that I know Nuth'n from Nuth'n... but I would suggest a little Oyster Sauce with your Sauce
for Fish...
Although the Purist in me says U shouldn't do that to a Fine Salmon

Your Sauce ... along with an Oyster Sauce is a Fine Glaze for Shrimp and Scallops...
I've already done it... many times

A nice Variation is to add a little heat... chipotle


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Post by ComputerGuy Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:21 pm

hockables wrote:
HelperGuy wrote:Sorry, you lost me completely now.


Beer
Not that I know Nuth'n from Nuth'n... but I would suggest a little Oyster Sauce with your Sauce
for Fish...
Although the Purist in me says U shouldn't do that to a Fine Salmon

Your Sauce ... along with an Oyster Sauce is a Fine Glaze for Shrimp and Scallops...
I've already done it... many times
Yep, but then it goes Asian, which is perfectly okay, but not what I want from this one.
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Post by hockables Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:25 pm

HelperGuy wrote:
hockables wrote:
HelperGuy wrote:Sorry, you lost me completely now.


Beer
Not that I know Nuth'n from Nuth'n... but I would suggest a little Oyster Sauce with your Sauce
for Fish...
Although the Purist in me says U shouldn't do that to a Fine Salmon

Your Sauce ... along with an Oyster Sauce is a Fine Glaze for Shrimp and Scallops...
I've already done it... many times
Yep, but then it goes Asian, which is perfectly okay, but not what I want from this one.

Beer My Wife never lets me cook anymore.... says I make to much of a mess...

so I resign myself to sitt'n on the deck, drink'n Beer, and watch'n her do it....

Lifes A Bitch
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Post by ComputerGuy Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:42 pm

This seems like a much better plan to me...
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Post by David Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:49 pm

Everyone's taste is different, and everyone's palate is right for them. Your palate will never lie to you, if you like it it's good, if you don't it's not. HelperGuy, which wines do you prefer with salmon?
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Post by ComputerGuy Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:41 pm

Well, sadly, I don't drink anymore. Quit a long, long time ago. So it's ice cold water with salmon for me. Good question, though.
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Post by brigitte Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:55 pm

Pinot Gris from Alsace or Oregon is my favorite with with salmon.

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Post by hockables Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:12 pm

Throw back a couple o bottles of wine before dinner... and you can throw the damned fish right into the fire..

snork

Tonite.... Mrs Hoxx made a nice Pork Cutlets w/Marinara Sauce & grated Parmesan, lots of cooked veggies, and a lite salad...
wash er all back with a nice Chianti... well 2 of em actually Beer
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Post by Pedro Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:28 pm

a fine 10 year old manischewitz is absolutely haute cuisinart with farm fresh salmon smothered in baked on goat cheese with bruxskull sprites on the side.
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Post by hockables Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:38 pm

Pedro wrote:a fine 10 year old manischewitz is absolutely haute cuisinart with farm fresh salmon smothered in baked on goat cheese with bruxskull sprites on the side.

U turn yer Salmon into a Cheezball??
Pity the poor fish... were he only to know what wuz in store for him
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Post by RoofBob Tue May 07, 2013 3:50 pm

David wrote:Here's an informative piece about farmed salmon which is pretty much the only thing we can get here. Ajijic Meat Center gets supposedly wild fish from B.C. during the season. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/04/13/salmon-confidential.aspx
Well something's fishy. Bought a kilo of 'wild salmon' from the Ajijic Meat Center yesterday, tail on and in the round and thawing it out today. When I unwrapped the cellophane I noticed a faint coloration on it from the end cut. Hummm, so I patted the meat with a paper towel and viola, it was orange. Now color me skeptical but I'd bet the wild salmon he's selling us ain't.
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Post by Trailrunner Tue May 07, 2013 3:55 pm

RB, please either take it back to Bernardo or go ask him what the orange color is about. Please.
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Post by RoofBob Tue May 07, 2013 4:14 pm

If I were a regular customer I would but since I'm not I won't. He knows what he's selling.
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Post by Trailrunner Tue May 07, 2013 5:00 pm

I'm going to call him on it next time I'm there. I trusted him.

Couldn't have been blood, right?
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Post by Pedro Tue May 07, 2013 5:04 pm

i cannot tell a lie-i googled this. WILD salmon can be red,pink or orange in colour dependent on what they have eaten. you experts around here, get over yourselves and just enjoy eating what ya get. if it's mushy, it's yer fault fer cooking it wrong or ya bought stough that was thawed out wrong.
fish farmers ain't stupid and they will feed their stock what makes them the reddest. wild fish have no choice-so that's where ya might get lighter colours-no?
the stough i've seen at wally world looks damn good. take yer silly blinders off.-SNORK!
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Post by RoofBob Tue May 07, 2013 5:12 pm

Trailrunner wrote:I'm going to call him on it next time I'm there. I trusted him.

Couldn't have been blood, right?
If salmon have orange blood it might be. I just patted it again, for about the 6th time and still see a faint orange color. Personally I'd rather be wrong than right, I love to eat fish and salmon is my fav.. Oh and BTW this one is hitting the grill in about 10 minutes.
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Post by Trailrunner Tue May 07, 2013 5:36 pm

Ok, so tell us how it comes out.
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Post by RoofBob Tue May 07, 2013 6:45 pm

(burp, scuzy) The salmon tasted fine, no better or worse than any other frozen salmon we've had lakeside.
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Post by borderreiver Tue May 07, 2013 10:53 pm

You cannot farm Sockeye salmon. They opted out of the program , will not go for it. Sockeye salmon flesh is red - no other colour, ever. The same goes for King/Spring. It can be done but too many wild card variables, such as, all Ur little guys could grow up to be - well - little guys, lots of expensive feed in - little guys out. If ur piece of salmon is bleeding orange, it's probably farmed. If you order the salmon in any Lakeside resto it will be farmed. IF you can buy frozen whole Sockeye Lakeside go for it, heck, they only average 4 #, a 6 # Sockeye is big. Buy it, slow thaw in the fridge and go nuts. No such thing as bad Sockeye leftovers.
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Post by ComputerGuy Tue May 07, 2013 10:58 pm

I see some sites say sockeye cannot be farmed, and then others that say it is being done successfully. http://www.oceanwise.ca/seafood/salmon/coho-salmon-sockeye-salmon
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Post by borderreiver Tue May 07, 2013 11:43 pm

Helperguy, I stand corrected. So, apparently, the where with all exists to farm Sockeyes. Wow. I don't know whether to laugh, cry or WE. I'll check it out. Thx. Just did. BS. Those of you living Lakeside are fortunate to live in an area that provides you with healthy, natural food. Please take advantage of all there is to offer.
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Post by ComputerGuy Wed May 08, 2013 12:03 am

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Post by Zedinmexico Wed May 08, 2013 7:44 am

brigitte wrote:Pinot Gris from Alsace or Oregon is my favorite with with salmon.

True Oregon has excellent Pinot Gris and Pinot Noir wines. Some of these are world class.

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Post by David Wed May 08, 2013 10:52 am

Most hatchery fish are coho or silver salmon. Lots of them produced in OR, WA, BC, and AK. When frozen salmon is thawed there's always some colored liquid, not to worry, it's not "coloring."
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Post by RoofBob Wed May 08, 2013 12:43 pm

I'm happy to hear that David, thanks! Very Happy
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Post by David Wed May 08, 2013 12:53 pm

I bought a fresh one from him last week and we had some for dinner that night and froze the rest. We thawed it yesterday so I could smoke it today. There was some of that light colored liquid after it thawed. It's in the smoker now!
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