Children and behavior issues.

ferret wrote:Sorry, in advance, for stirring the pot. This article was in the Globe and Mail today...it appears that snotty little brats become snotty big brats. Isn't anyone in charge any more?
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/the-hot-button/does-your-little-buddha-need-to-scrub-a-toilet/article2393420/

This article has merit but I also remember these now grand parents say during the eighties (?) if they tried to disciplined they’re children, the children complained to school counselors and the parents were brought up on charges of abuse. I remember this time well, not nice.

And who was responsible for allowing such a culture to develop? Here is a hint: it wasn't the children!

CheenaGringo wrote:And who was responsible for allowing such a culture to develop? Here is a hint: it wasn't the children!

Gotta agree my generation blew it a little bit with the free will crap. I am all for free will after you learn to be responsable and limit your rights to your own.
Not sure what is being taught now a days.

Z

Good article. I agree it's a lack of good role models at home plus the influence of rubbish T.V. which glorifies adults behaving badly. If the parents are rude and disrespectful to each other what can you expect?

If kids are in an environment where everyone treats everyone else with respect, and jobs in the house are the responsibility of everyone, there really shouldn't be a problem. Of course, this has to start from the beginning.

What does anyone expect from a culture that now glorifies creatures like Lady Gag me with a spoon or Madonna? How about all the gratuitous violence and video games?

That's not to say that there aren't snotty little brats, who are a lot more difficult than other kids. In their case much stricter rules need to be applied, and no misdemeanor left uncorrected.

In our house there's the three strikes and you're out rule.
Number one: The offender is taken off in private, the bad behavior discussed and a warning given, with the consequences spelled out in no uncertain terms.
Number two: The warning is enforced, usually not getting to go somewhere with everyone else.
Number three: A cherished activity, like horseback riding, perhaps off a week or so in the future is denied. After you do this a few times, they never let things get to number three, because they know you mean business.

Once again, it's not rocket science.

CheenaGringo wrote:May not be rocket science but the parents need to be smarter than the kids to own them!

Huh? They're not pets, they own themselves, your job is simply to teach them and over time they will become responsible for themselves and become confident adults with a bit of luck.

CheenaGringo wrote:I get it! Far too emotional issue for some to grasp a bit of sarcasm?

I got the sarcasm........but you're right. It's the kind of emotional issue which tends to fog the windshield of your mind. Besides, it's way easier to train a puppy.

True that, and even pet ownership is a waaaay too emotional an issue as we have seen on TOB in some posts.

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ferret wrote:ROTFLMAO!

This thread is stupid....maybe gringal...and maids... would be a better debate.........what a waste of airtime.

Jim W wrote:

ferret wrote:ROTFLMAO!

This thread is stupid....maybe gringal...and maids... would be a better debate.........what a waste of airtime.

I could not disagree more. Our children are the future.

Dealing in trivial subjects is a waste of bandwidth.

ferret wrote:Jim, ANYBODY'S children will have a fair impact on Old Age Security payments in Canada or on Social Security in the U.S. Wouldn't ya like them to be responsible, well educated and hold down good jobs while providing tax revenue?
The children are indeed our future.

I agree, unless we go through the pain of these discussions nothing will be resolved let alone find solutions. The old cliché: “The definition of a fool is to keep doing the same thing and expect different results.” IMHO the reason many try to keep the “status quo” is because it protects their employment and not what is good for society.