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Post by Jreboll Wed Nov 18, 2020 5:57 pm

Finally! Today’s evening news pointed out that it is extremely important to have good blood levels of vitamins C and D and zinc.
This’s how many months into the pandemic? This information has been known since the beginning.

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Post by ferret Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:42 pm

LOL! But the same people who don't wear masks also won't take supplements. I believe it's totally logical to take them and have been doing so... and we did explain it a loooong time ago on this thread.
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Post by kiko Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:15 pm

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/were-in-trouble-texas-sending-record-help-to-hospitals/ar-BB1b917B?li=BBnb7Kz

After reading the above article, I just cannot believe that some are still debating the merits of a mask. WTF? Folks this is not rocket science.
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Post by ferret Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:19 pm

No it's not rocket science. It's not even first grade science and proof has been provided ad nauseum.
Houcks started a thread on TOB about masks and promptly shut it down when people didn't agree with him. Lots of proof was provided over there early in the pandemic as well.
Just. plain. fucking. stupid.
Wear a mask.
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Post by slainte39 Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:37 pm

ferret wrote:No it's not rocket science. It's not even first grade science
                                              Houcks
Just. plain. fucking. stupid.
Wear a mask.

I edited your post that says it all.

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Post by ComputerGuy Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:15 pm

He is the biggest troll on that board.
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Post by slainte39 Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:49 pm

ComputerGuy wrote:He is the biggest troll on that board.

The biggest, dumbest troll on that board.

(I´ll edit your post, too ) lol!

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Post by ferret Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:16 am

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/covid-19-is-killing-americans-at-a-rate-of-at-least-one-per-minute/ar-BB1b8FPZ

Please don't edit the link slainte39. ;)
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Post by ferret Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:20 am

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Post by slainte39 Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:22 pm

ferret wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/covid-19-is-killing-americans-at-a-rate-of-at-least-one-per-minute/ar-BB1b8FPZ

Please don't edit the link slainte39. ;)

Promise I won´t......No way.

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Post by kiko Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:49 pm

In just one day the death toll rose to 1923 on Wednesday, so one death every 44 seconds. Word for the day: Exponential.
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Post by Jreboll Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:14 pm

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/health/who-remdesivir-coronavirus-treatment-guidelines/index.html

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Post by ferret Fri Nov 20, 2020 8:26 am

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Post by ferret Fri Nov 20, 2020 9:43 am

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/backstory-anthony-fauci-has-had-it-with-people-who-think-covid-19-is-no-worse-than-the-flu/ar-BB1bcq1L

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Post by Jreboll Fri Nov 20, 2020 2:05 pm

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/20/americas/mexico-pandemic-100k-deaths/index.html

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Post by ferret Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:50 pm

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/more-proof-that-mask-mandates-worked-to-slow-the-spread-of-covid-19-cdc-research-in-kansas-shows/ar-BB1bdLhI?ocid=Peregrine

And Don Trump Jr. now has the virus. Wonder how many people he infected.
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Post by Jreboll Sat Nov 21, 2020 12:49 pm

And Don Trump Jr. now has the virus. Wonder how many people he infected.[/quote

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Post by Catoca Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:35 pm

Regarding masks, there is this recent study which disputes the significant beneficial effects of masks. My opinion has always been that the wearing of masks is to protect other people and to a more limited extent, yourself.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/do-masks-stop-the-spread-of-covid-19-

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Post by ferret Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:43 pm

So they tested people who wore masks FOR ONE MONTH but "some people, of course, did not wear their masks properly. Only 46 per cent of those wearing masks in the trial said they had completely adhered to the rules."... and absolutely nothing about the severity of the Covid that some of those contracted. That's some kind of scientific study. And social distancing? Hand washing?
Geez Louise. Give your head a shake.
With most people in most countries wearing masks, the prevalence of good old ordinary influenza is waaaaay down.
When you protect yourself, you also protect others.
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Post by Catoca Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:01 am

I am not advocating not wearing masks and I agree that based upon the abstract, there is no accounting for confounding factors. I am still in favour of wearing masks until there is better evidence that it does not work. However, it is the only randomised controlled study, I am aware of. Please feel free to quote another study which says different. As far as Influenza is concerned, your lack of knowledge is glaring - correlation is not the same as causation. Please give your own head a shake.

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Post by ComputerGuy Sun Nov 22, 2020 1:07 am

If I were moderating here, I'd shut this down right now. There is another Webboard where this kind of belittling argumentation is welcomed, even promoted by the leader of the band, and it ain't here.
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Post by kiko Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:59 am

The Lancet, the New England Journal of Medicine, and JAMA, the Journal of the American Medical Association have all rejected the Danish study. The Danish study is still under peer review.

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Post by Jreboll Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:11 am

I spent all my working life as an RN in surgery and critical care units. Every hospital keeps tabs on cross infections. All surgical infections are closely scrutinized. When a “super bug” is found in a unit the patient is isolated and cross infections are followed up. These practices have been developed over decades and are practiced in hospitals all over the world.
I’ve worked in many hospitals across the US, Mexico and Puerto Rico. There is no question whatsoever as to the efficacy of using masks both in protecting the patients and medical workers taking care of them.

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Post by ferret Sun Nov 22, 2020 8:21 am

The facts... just the facts...
https://www.nytimes.com/article/coronavirus-masks.html

And on the subject of influenza...
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infectiousdisease/uritheflu/88676
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