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Post by Canada_Mike on Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:01 pm

Can - and ought - I report on a restaurant where two of us got sick? We ate the same thing, and the third person wh ordered something different did not.
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Post by CanuckBob on Wed Feb 20, 2019 4:35 pm

Well it could destroy their business so you have to ask yourself if that's what you want and of course be 110% sure. Salmonella can be spread person to person too and take up to 24 hours to present itself.

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Post by Gamina on Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:14 pm

Agree with CB. You could have picked up something the day before but with no problems until you ate somewhere else. It's really, really hard to pinpoint food poisoning.
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Post by Trailrunner on Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:26 pm

Agree. Without a lab report you can't prove anything. And if you go have a talk with the establishment they will likely deny it - or worse. As far as going public in your accusation, I would advise against it for all the reasons above.
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Post by Canada_Mike on Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:47 pm

Glad I posted. I'm not saying that it was salmonella. Three of us went to dinner, and two of us who do not live together ordered the same thing. Hours later, and not having eaten anything else, we both got sick. Seems pretty cut and dried.

Anyone who wants to know can PM me.
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Post by Gamina on Wed Feb 20, 2019 5:58 pm

Canada_Mike wrote:Glad I posted. I'm not saying that it was salmonella. Three of us went to dinner, and two of us who do not live together ordered the same thing. Hours later, and not having eaten anything else, we both got sick. Seems pretty cut and dried.

Anyone who wants to know can PM me.

Diarrhea or stomach pain? How many hours later?
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Post by CanuckBob on Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:42 pm


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Post by HoneyBee on Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:55 pm

To bad its in Spain because I would like to have treated some "nice" neighbors to dinner...

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Post by Canada_Mike on Thu Mar 07, 2019 12:54 pm

We were both vomiting in the middle of the night. I've also since heard from people who have gotten ill at several well known and well established restos. I did communicate with mine, and they were astonished, and apologetic.
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Post by Trailrunner on Thu Mar 07, 2019 2:25 pm

You know, it's a wake-up call for some of these places to hear when people get sick after eating there. It's easy to be too cavalier when preparing food for people - especially in this hot time of year. It's good you told them and their response was right.

Happened to me a few months ago, different resto, 2 others sick too, and the dueña refused to believe it was possible. Beware restos that are struggling to hang on regardless of how much you want to help them make it. Makes me gag to drive by it now.



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Post by Problem Child on Sat Mar 23, 2019 9:33 am

CanuckBob wrote:Well it could destroy their business so you have to ask yourself if that's what you want and of course be 110% sure. Salmonella can be spread person to person too and take up to 24 hours to present itself.

What you say is true, however, there is another side of the coin.

My wife and two friends went to a restaurant last night. My wife got a dinner to go and brought it to me and I put it in the fridge.

My wife was feeling ill to her stomach when she got home. About midnight, her friend sent her a WhatsApp and said her and her boyfriend were sick as dogs. Stomach pain and vomiting.

So this doesn't look like something picked up a few days ago, etc.

So at what point is it OK to post where these three people got sick after eating?

I remember one instance where it was found that a kitchen service person had Hep B and dozens of people were exposed. And it's not uncommon to read stories about several people at a party, in the story I read, it was a wedding party, became will due to some issue with one of the things they ingested.




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Post by CanuckBob on Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:04 am

I believe you are a retired attorney so maybe you could enlighten us as to what the libel/slander laws are in this regard?

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Post by Problem Child on Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:25 am

CanuckBob wrote:I believe you are a retired attorney so maybe you could enlighten us as to what the libel/slander laws are in this regard?

I am not a retired attorney, I was kicked out decades ago, a fact well known to those on this board. To respond to your question:.

In Mexico, in 1857, the Mexican Constitution gave Mexican citizens freedom of speech, and in Article 6 of the Mexican Constitution of 1917, it states that" the exchange of ideas is to be left undisturbed with the exception of those ideas that are an attack on morality, an attack on a third party, provoke crimes, or disturb public disorder."

It appears if one gives a factual account without malice or intent to harm, it is OK to post a negative review of any business and even to comment on individual actions of individuals as long as it isn't political, etc. Probably OK to say you think such-and-such is doing a good job as a casual comment.

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Post by CanuckBob on Sat Mar 23, 2019 11:31 am

Well they have Yelp and Trip advisor for just this purpose. You will have a bit more anonymity over there.

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Post by Problem Child on Sat Mar 23, 2019 12:36 pm

CanuckBob wrote:Well they have Yelp and Trip advisor for just this purpose. You will have a bit more anonymity over there.

I didn't give the name and did send them a PM on Facebook.

I am sure the restaurant will triple check everything. I also know that there is no way any edible retailer can check the quality of their suppliers. If the restaurant isn't told, they have no way of even checking.

I posted it because maybe some others had the same problem.

I'm not out to trash the restaurant, just help it.  SURPRISE!

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Post by CanuckBob on Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:13 pm

Sounds like you handled it correctly IMO.

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Post by hockables on Sun Mar 31, 2019 4:19 pm

Don't forget Fresh Produce and Ice Cubes...

Spoke with someone who was trying to trace her husband's sickness...
She couldn't remember either eating something different, and she hadn't been ill.

He had a Coke... with Ice.... .... maybe ...

It's very hard to be sure.

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