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'El Chapo' Guzman escapes

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Post by Jim W Mon Jul 13, 2015 7:39 pm

You guys are cracking me up Chris and Slainte! POLOTICS ON THE BOARD AIN'T KEWL!

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Post by Ms.Thang Mon Jul 13, 2015 8:28 pm

There is a live press conference about this on TV right now.

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Post by Rosa Venus Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:34 pm

I read this afternoon that El Chapo sent Trump a Tweet. Ummmmm….the language was a bit coarse. Hahahahaha!
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Post by viajero Mon Jul 13, 2015 9:51 pm

Rosa Venus wrote:I read this afternoon that El Chapo sent Trump a Tweet. Ummmmm….the language was a bit coarse. Hahahahaha!
"Sigue chingando y voy hacer que tragues todas tus putas palabras,pinche guero cagaleche ",something like that.
Apparently donald has asked the FBI to investigate the threatening tweet.
It was funny but I doubt that El Chapo tweeted it,he's probably too busy eating mariscos and getting laid.

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Post by viajero Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:28 pm

The wags in Mexico City are saying that they should have contracted el chapo to dig the tunnels for the new Metro line.

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Post by Grizzy Tue Jul 14, 2015 12:28 am

I would pay a ticket to see Chapo shoot that dead possum off of Trumps head. With his billions you would think he could afford a new dead animal toupee.
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Post by slainte39 Tue Jul 14, 2015 1:21 am

Grizzy wrote:I would pay a ticket to see Chapo shoot that dead possum off of Trumps head. With his billions you would think he could afford a new dead animal toupee.


lol!

Who would have believed that Chapo's escape would become such a thorn in Donald's side....or hair.
He might be the wrong Mexican to piss off.
Can tunnels be dug under hotels?

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Post by Grizzy Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:36 am

Trump's Hotels are low bid low quality. But i predict his flashy helicopter is going to be shot down.
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Post by Semalu Tue Jul 14, 2015 3:11 pm

Hey is there any truth to the rumour that his escape was planned and executed by SNC Lavalin? I heard they got tired of waiting for Said Ghaddafi....

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Post by slainte39 Tue Jul 14, 2015 4:08 pm

Semalu wrote:Hey is there any truth to the rumour that his escape was planned and executed by SNC Lavalin? I heard they got tired of waiting for Said Ghaddafi....

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Is that the Canuck company that sold their soul to the devil...errr, I mean the cartels in Mexico to continue mining operations?  Maybe they performed a service to pay off their debt for the franchise.
OH BOY!  Thanks Semalu, this could be the beginning of a plot for a big, best selling international intrigue novel.
The RCMP should raid their offices and see if they had plans of the prison sructure

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Post by Rosa Venus Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:11 pm

viajero wrote:(Stunning escape of Joaquin el Chapo Guzman fuels Mexicans' cynicism).
A good read in the NYTimes.

Thanks. And here's the link: NY Times Article: El Chapo Escape Fuels Cynicism

Ooops. Looks like I'm very late with that link. It appears the topic has moved on to mining operations by Canadian companies within Mexico. A charming topic.
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Post by slainte39 Tue Jul 14, 2015 10:30 pm

Does anyone know if El Chapo was the wealthiest person incarcerated any where in the world at the time of his escape?

Any other billionaires (in USD) in lockup any where?  Obviously most of his assets had not been appropriated.

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Post by hockables Tue Jul 14, 2015 11:39 pm

slainte39 wrote:Does anyone know if El Chapo was the wealthiest person incarcerated any where in the world at the time of his escape?

Any other billionaires (in USD) in lockup any where?  Obviously most of his assets had not been appropriated.

well... there's Bernie... he was supposed to have given it all back... but, who knows...
by now, he's probably invested everyone's cigarettes into a Canadian Mining Co. Beer
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Post by Semalu Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:47 am

Judging by the pictures of the actual tunnel used it looks like the rumours were wrong! The link is to a tour of the tunnel provided free of charge thanks to Canada's CBC news feed. The tunnel is a simple construction that could have been built by any number of miners or other members of the mole family.... of which there are legion in Mexico. No outside help would have been needed after all.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/take-a-tour-of-notorious-drug-lord-s-prison-escape-tunnel-1.3152345?cmp=rss

If anyone on this board spouting off about mining firms actually knows anything about them, then by these pictures you will see that any tunnel built by engineers would be far more, well, engineered (read costly, over planned and over built). That means with concrete everything, health and safety up the ying yang and zero impact environmental planning. I do not see any evidence of that here, just old fashioned timbered tunneling methods that have been in use since the days before Soloman. You would also know that Canadian Miners have actually made a far greater technological contribution to Mexico than this tunnel displays, or for that matter, than anyone else on this topic who is reading this has made. Think you have done more for Mexico through creating jobs, infrastructure and socioeconomic changes? Then put your money where your mouth spout is and prove it. I am happy to challenge you to a duel in the Octagon.

While you try to recover from your embarrassment at your own hypocrisy towards mining by hiding all your rings and other jewellery, and every other little bit of metal about your person, your home and your cars - and don't forget the computer you are using to read this; here is a little bit of education for the less willfully ignorant among you.

The referral to SNC Lavalin was to their own attempts as escape artists with the arrests in Mexico over the scandal to move Saif al-Islam Gaddafi to Mexico following the collapse of his fathers regime in Libya. Anyone remember Cindy Vanier of SNC Lavalin? No? Arteries getting too hard up there? How about Muammar Gaddafi? ...Libya?  Maybe if there is a bible thumping creationist or two out there you may at least recall who Soloman was?   No?  Ah..you didn't actually read that book either...tsk tsk...

Looks like some of you may have eaten too many of United Fruits banana's, they appear to have gone to your head. LMFAO:

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Post by Pedro Wed Jul 15, 2015 7:53 am

Semalu wrote:Judging by the pictures of the actual tunnel used it looks like the rumours were wrong! The link is to a tour of the tunnel provided free of charge thanks to Canada's CBC news feed. The tunnel is a simple construction that could have been built by any number of miners or other members of the mole family.... of which there are legion in Mexico. No outside help would have been needed after all.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/take-a-tour-of-notorious-drug-lord-s-prison-escape-tunnel-1.3152345?cmp=rss

If anyone on this board spouting off about mining firms actually knows anything about them, then by these pictures you will see that any tunnel built by engineers would be far more, well, engineered (read costly, over planned and over built). That means with concrete everything, health and safety up the ying yang and zero impact environmental planning. I do not see any evidence of that here, just old fashioned timbered tunneling methods that have been in use since the days before Soloman. You would also know that Canadian Miners have actually made a far greater technological contribution to Mexico than this tunnel displays, or for that matter, than anyone else on this topic who is reading this has made. Think you have done more for Mexico through creating jobs, infrastructure and socioeconomic changes? Then put your money where your mouth spout is and prove it. I am happy to challenge you to a duel in the Octagon.

While you try to recover from your embarrassment at your own hypocrisy towards mining by hiding all your rings and other jewellery, and every other little bit of metal about your person, your home and your cars - and don't forget the computer you are using to read this; here is a little bit of education for the less willfully ignorant among you.

The referral to SNC Lavalin was to their own attempts as escape artists with the arrests in Mexico over the scandal to move Saif al-Islam Gaddafi to Mexico following the collapse of his fathers regime in Libya. Anyone remember Cindy Vanier of SNC Lavalin? No? Arteries getting too hard up there? How about Muammar Gaddafi? ...Libya?  Maybe if there is a bible thumping creationist or two out there you may at least recall who Soloman was?   No?  Ah..you didn't actually read that book either...tsk tsk...

Looks like some of you may have eaten too many of United Fruits banana's, they appear to have gone to your head. LMFAO:

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Post by Semalu Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:00 am

I thank you, but still hold some foolish optimism...

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Post by slainte39 Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:09 am

Semalu wrote:Hey is there any truth to the rumour that his escape was planned and executed by SNC Lavalin? I heard they got tired of waiting for Said Ghaddafi....

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Hey!! Chill out!!
You are the one who started this mining thing. Now you are inviting a bunch of people armed with knives to a gun fight. (in a mine) lol!


Sorry, it was a duel in the octagon.

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Post by Smartalex Wed Jul 15, 2015 8:04 pm

The feds released video of Guzman's last moments in captivity during a press briefing by National Security Commissioner Monte Alejandro Rubido. The video also includes scenes of the tunnel and the house at the end of tunnel.





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Post by Smartalex Thu Jul 16, 2015 1:21 pm

How significant is El Chapo's escape from prison? According to this article by James Bosworth...not much.

5 Reasons El Chapo's Escape Doesn't Matter
http://www.insightcrime.org/news-analysis/5-reasons-el-chapo-escape-doesnt-matter
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Post by Lady Otter Latté Thu Jul 16, 2015 6:41 pm

Here is an interesting point of view.

http://www.insightcrime.org/news-analysis/5-reasons-el-chapo-escape-doesnt-matter
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Post by Semalu Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:04 pm

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http://www.insightcrime.org/news-analysis/5-reasons-el-chapo-escape-doesnt-matter

Some very good points made in this article but I think one may have been missed,namely how this will affect the outcome of the next presidential elections? Guzmans escape could be the catalyst that loses the election for the PRI the next time around. I can just see the negative ad campaigns now....

Should make for some interesting watching, and even more interesting times following the next election.

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Post by slainte39 Thu Jul 16, 2015 11:09 pm

Smartalex wrote:How significant is El Chapo's escape from prison? According to this article by James Bosworth...not much.

5 Reasons El Chapo's Escape Doesn't Matter
http://www.insightcrime.org/news-analysis/5-reasons-el-chapo-escape-doesnt-matter

A  very good article, which I have to agree with just about everything in his analysis.
By the time the next presidential election rolls around, which is quite a ways off, this will be old news and not that influential on the results as there will be other issues that come later and push it further down the list.  Actually, if they recapture Chapo close to the election, it could be a boost for the PRI.
.....and another chance for the redistribution of wealth.     Very Happy

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Post by dcampbell757 Sat Jul 18, 2015 8:47 am

Isn't he the guy gunning for Trump?

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Post by viajero Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:30 am

Back to the topic.
(Public Enemy?At home in Mexico,El Chapo is Folk Hero No.1),interesting article in the NYTimes today.


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Post by brigitte Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:34 am

El Chapo subject is a non subject. He ran his cartel from jail and now he is out...big deal...One day he will retire or get killed or go back to jail and someone else will take his place or another cartel will take ove...as long as there is demand these guys will be around so the enemy number 1 are the guys consuming drugs not the guys selling it.

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Post by brigitte Sat Jul 18, 2015 11:38 am

El Chapo subject is a non subject. He ran his cartel from jail and now he is out...big deal...One day he will retire or get killed or go back to jail and someone else will take his place or another cartel will take over...as long as there is demand these guys will be around so the enemy number 1 are the guys consuming drugs not the guys selling it. Legalize drugs and ta them and let people who want to destroy themelves destroy themselves, just like they do wih alcohol or tobacco..

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