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Post by RichD Thu Jan 19, 2017 5:28 pm

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Post by CanuckBob Thu Jan 19, 2017 6:59 pm

I assume you are referring to the fact that he was recently extradited to the US.

http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/2017/703039/6/confirma-segob-extradicion-del-chapo.htm

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Post by CanuckBob Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:03 pm

And the timing is suspect given the new "anti-Mexico" US admin coming into the power tomorrow. I guess this is Mexico's olive branch.......jaja.

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Post by shana Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:13 pm

el Chapo is headed to NYC to be tried there because their courts have a lot of experience in complex cases.
You are right Bob. Supposedly it was timed so that Obama would get credit for getting him to the USA.

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Post by jrm30655 Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:18 pm

Let's see if I have this right....

MX sends Guzman to the US to be fed, clothed, housed and free medical care for 30 years and this is a favor to the US?

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Post by Trailrunner Thu Jan 19, 2017 7:52 pm

US has the death penalty, I think kidnapping convictions are automatic death penalty. Right?
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Post by shana Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:32 pm

Mexico does not have a death penalty and will only extradite with an agreement with the USA that there will be no death penalty no matter what the crime calls for.

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Post by slainte39 Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:28 pm

jrm30655 wrote:Let's see if I have this right....

MX sends Guzman to the US to be fed, clothed, housed and free medical care for 30 years and this is a favor to the US?

The US requested extradition as Guzman is a Mexican citizen, unlike the shooter of the consular official in GDL.  No favors, no sending, as all law enforcement in the US that had charges pending against him, wanted him.  The other case I mentioned, yeah the Mexican government dumped him back into the US immediately.
The private prison industry in the US wants all the bodies it can get.....good for business.

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Post by Clete Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:25 am

shana wrote:el Chapo  is headed to NYC to be tried there because their courts have a lot of experience in complex cases.
You are right Bob.  Supposedly it was timed so that Obama would get credit for getting him to the USA.

According to whom?

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Post by Clete Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:27 am

And since they nabbed Guzman, drug related violence has decreased, right? This is all a joke. The whole drug war is a frikking joke.

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Post by CanuckBob Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:35 am

Yes, it is a joke for sure. At least Chapo won't be getting special treatment or escaping anytime soon. He'll be locked away in a Supermax and will barely see the light of day.

OR.........maybe he'll be the next contestant on Celebrity Apprentice??

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Post by Trailrunner Fri Jan 20, 2017 8:11 am

Or maybe he'll be the next POTUS! Stranger things have happened. uggg

Exactly right, Clete!
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Post by slainte39 Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:05 am

CanuckBob wrote:Yes, it is a joke for sure. At least Chapo won't be getting special treatment or escaping anytime soon. He'll be locked away in a Supermax and will barely see the light of day.

OR.........maybe he'll be the next contestant on Celebrity Apprentice??

His capture and disposition of incarceration has about as much effect on the drug business, as picking up a handful of sand, has on the appearance of a beach on the Pacific.  
Just feel good news for the DEA and their like bureaucracies, in both countries. Who cares if he gets special treatment? Much ado about nothing.
Maybe they cut off the head of a snake, but there are 10,000 snakes, out there, of equal caliber.

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Post by Lady Otter Latté Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:50 am

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/01/20/why-mexico-sent-el-chapo-to-the-u-s-now.html?via=newsletter&source=DDAfternoon
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Post by CanuckBob Fri Jan 20, 2017 12:50 pm

slainte39 wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:Yes, it is a joke for sure. At least Chapo won't be getting special treatment or escaping anytime soon. He'll be locked away in a Supermax and will barely see the light of day.

OR.........maybe he'll be the next contestant on Celebrity Apprentice??

His capture and disposition of incarceration has about as much effect on the drug business, as picking up a handful of sand, has on the appearance of a beach on the Pacific.  
Just feel good news for the DEA and their like bureaucracies, in both countries. Who cares if he gets special treatment? Much ado about nothing.
Maybe they cut off the head of a snake, but there are 10,000 snakes, out there, of equal caliber.

You have to start somewhere. Pablo Escobar feared extradition to the US prison system more than death.

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Post by slainte39 Fri Jan 20, 2017 5:49 pm

Yep, like running half a meter in a 100 meter race, it's a start.

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Post by gvprod Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:58 pm

don't worry tunnel engineers are already crossing the border.
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