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Post by Smartalex Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:08 pm

viajero wrote:
Smartalex wrote:You're not being fair to the judge in Baja. The Russian woman was released due to a lack of evidence to corroborate her confession. When the prosecutor presented corroborating evidence, the same judge issued an arrest warrant. The Russian woman was rearrested and has now denied her confession.
The judge in Baja is an idiot and the only reason she issued the warrant was because she was being ridiculed and was under pressure,she should have never released that crazy bitch in the first place.

Your assessment of this judge is probably true. However, I think the recent judicial reforms now require corroborating evidence when a "confession" is obtained by the authorities.

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Post by Semalu Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:42 pm

In so many communities it seems to be children who happen to have children. Intercasa, I doubt shame and ostracization will do the job. That is such a born again christian concept really that has little application here. I understand it is human nature to want to punish first, but the reality is, the people involved have faced exactly that sort of punishment and far far worse abuses for so many generations to no effect. I doubt what you suggest will have effect now. If you think about it , the suggestion is itself a form of insanity (think Einstein - doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result each time...)
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http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/06/glasgow-murder-rate-knife-gang-crime-police

As an alternative suggestion, why not consider an example of a Scottish solution to a similar issue (see above story link). Certainly a different scale than what we see, Glasgow was still the single most violent city in Europe for many years until they tried a different tactic. They began to listen and to engage. I doubt people go out of their way to aspire to criminality. It is only one option from a very short list of local job opportunities. Maybe we need to talk to them.

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Post by viajero Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:37 pm

Alex,what's the latest on menchito?
News reports say that he was released by another asshole paid off judge????

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Post by Smartalex Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:47 pm

Been a busy day for the little bugger. He was released and then rearrested. Here's the latest from Informador...

Reaprehenden de nueva cuenta a 'El Menchito'
http://www.informador.com.mx/jalisco/2015/601088/6/reaprehenden-de-nueva-cuenta-a-el-menchito.htm
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Post by viajero Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:57 pm

I guess the grenades, AK/47s and gold plated,personalized pistol they found on him were'nt proof enough, like I said, the judges here are a bad joke.


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Post by slainte39 Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:58 pm

Too bad the police can't arrest a few judges, although the bribes are a good way to draw down on the cash reserves of the CJNG. Rolling Eyes

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Post by Chapalagringa Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:01 pm

I guess he just had a nose job done.
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Post by viajero Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:04 pm

Chapalagringa wrote:I guess he just had a nose job done.  
He still looks like a niño berrinchudo.

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Post by Smartalex Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:20 pm

Here's a more detailed account from El Universal...

Reaprehenden a 'El Menchito'; lo llevan a la SEIDO
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/nacion-mexico/2015/reaprenden-a-39el-menchito-39-lo-acusan-de-desaparicion-de-personas--1111236.html
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Post by viajero Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:45 pm

Smartalex wrote:Here's a more detailed account from El Universal...

Reaprehenden a 'El Menchito'; lo llevan a la SEIDO
http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/nacion-mexico/2015/reaprenden-a-39el-menchito-39-lo-acusan-de-desaparicion-de-personas--1111236.html
"Portaba armas prohibidas,algunas de ellas con su nombre grabada...".
What more proof do you want???
Pinches juezes pendejos...

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Post by brigitte Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:52 pm

Something I do not get, they say that the US consul was there because el Menchito has double nationality. I thought thre was no such thing and that when in Mexico you were Mexican...

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Post by viajero Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:08 pm

brigitte wrote:Something I do not get, they say that the US consul was there because el Menchito has double nationality. I thought thre was no such thing and that when in Mexico you were Mexican...
Good question.

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Post by CanuckBob Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:22 pm

I'm sure the US wants to get him into their hands........
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Post by Semalu Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:40 pm

I doubt anyone gives a damn about him...Maybe they want to get their hands on one of his briefcases, just like that second judge who had him re-arrested. That first judge sure let him go quick.

With the new legal code coming into effect in July of 2016 (barring delays), wanna bet we see a lot of stories of brief cases being arrested this year? I imagine that a lot of people would be upset to see their incomes slashed....

Gawd what a cynic I have become....

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Post by Smartalex Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:53 pm

Ruben Oseguera (El Menchito) has been ordered to be held in prison for 40 days while he is investigated for charges of kidnapping. From Informador...

La PGR arraiga a 'El Menchito' por 40 días
http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/2015/601518/6/la-pgr-arraiga-a-el-menchito-por-40-dias.htm
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Post by sampati Wed Jul 15, 2015 5:27 am

This was on the internet this morning.  Looks like El Mencho makes El Chapo look like a priest.  

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/forget-el-chapo-%e2%80%94-meet-el-mencho-and-his-bloodthirsty-cartel/ar-AAcYgcr
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Post by addtocart Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:06 am

While the Mexican gub'mint continues to do nothing.
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Post by Pedro Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:38 am

addtocart wrote:While the Mexican gub'mint continues to do nothing.
limme put this in perspective for you. the gummint is doing lotsa stough. the real gummint that actually rules this country is made up of the cartels.since there are so many there will never be a majority nor a consensus to rule effectively. there you have it -politics 101.
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Post by slainte39 Wed Jul 15, 2015 10:55 am

addtocart wrote:While the Mexican gub'mint continues to do nothing.


A kind of over the top statement.
Tell that to the families of all the police that have been killed in Jalisco this year. Tell that to the police who raided and killed the 40 some suspects at the ranch in Michoacán or the ones that found and arrested El Menchito.
The government isn't just the top dogs sitting behind a desk giving orders, it is also the "workers" in the field risking and losing their lives.
A  lot of "bad apples" exist in the emplyoyee of the government, but to paint everyone that works for the government, and yes even the lower tiers of employees are government, is ludicrous.
With an attitude like this, there is little incentive for the government or police to risk their lives and just say, "well, it just easier to take the payoff".  When you receive no respect, you give none.
It's a classic case of "what came first, the chicken or the egg".
There needs to be a revamp of everything....the government (police) and the public (civilians), and it ain't going to happen overnight.
Striving is the only solution.

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Post by Smartalex Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:02 am

Well said Slainte.
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Post by viajero Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:10 am

slainte39 wrote:
addtocart wrote:While the Mexican gub'mint continues to do nothing.
A kind of over the top statement.
David,addtocart has never had a SINGLE positive thing to say about Mexico on any forum that he or she posts on.
He or she does nothing but bitch and whine.

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Post by slainte39 Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:20 am

viajero wrote:
slainte39 wrote:
addtocart wrote:While the Mexican gub'mint continues to do nothing.
A kind of over the top statement.
David,addtocart has never had a SINGLE positive thing to say about Mexico on any forum that he or she posts on.
He or she does nothing but bitch and whine.

I know that.....that's what made me get off my ass, and write.

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Post by addtocart Thu Jul 16, 2015 10:28 am

slainte39 wrote:
viajero wrote:
slainte39 wrote:
addtocart wrote:While the Mexican gub'mint continues to do nothing.
A kind of over the top statement.
David,addtocart has never had a SINGLE positive thing to say about Mexico on any forum that he or she posts on.
He or she does nothing but bitch and whine.

I know that.....that's what made me get off my ass, and write.
You've thrown your rock, now put your head back in the sand.
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Post by viajero Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:19 pm

addtocart wrote:
slainte39 wrote:
viajero wrote:
slainte39 wrote:
addtocart wrote:While the Mexican gub'mint continues to do nothing.
A kind of over the top statement.
David,addtocart has never had a SINGLE positive thing to say about Mexico on any forum that he or she posts on.
He or she does nothing but bitch and whine.

I know that.....that's what made me get off my ass, and write.
You've thrown your rock, now put your head back in the sand.
Addtocart,Slainte's head is not in the sand,neither is mine,but your constant bitching,whining and criticism of Mexico does get tiresome.

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Post by Smartalex Wed Aug 26, 2015 11:55 pm

The Michoacan human rights commission has concluded that there is no evidence that any of the 42 gangsters killed at Tanhuato were executed.

Víctimas de Tanhuato no tenían balas en la cabeza: CEDH
http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/2015/610956/6/victimas-de-tanhuato-no-tenian-balas-en-la-cabeza-cedh.htm
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Post by slainte39 Thu Aug 27, 2015 12:27 am

That news will upset the conspiracy theorists.

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