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Rumors - Any Truth???

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Post by slainte39 Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:07 pm

If the police are going to be sanitized and the corruption cleaned up somewhat, it will take a few years.  Even if that happens, the real problem is getting the people to have confidence in the police and the police to have credibility with the people. Because of their track record, that might take several generations.

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Post by CanuckBob Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:14 pm

I think they need to reform their justice system first.
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Post by gpbasap Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:46 pm

Agreed. Top down rather than bottom up.
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Post by Pedro Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:57 pm

CanuckBob wrote:I think they need to reform their justice system first.
that is what's being done but like slainte39 says it takes time and yes it's being done from the top down.
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Post by Lady Otter Latté Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:29 pm

According to El Informador:

“So today those deadlines expire and the resignation of the directors of the Police municipalities as Zapopan, Atenguillo, Cabo Corrientes, Chapala, Chiquilistlán, Huejúcar Mixtlan, Pihuamo, Teocuitatlán Corona and Tollman, etc. are required. Only in this group of municipalities the Attorney General of Jalisco documented preliminary inquiries initiated by robbery, murder, kidnapping and extortion.”

http://translate.google.com/translate?depth=1&hl=en&prev=search&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=es&u=http://www.informador.com.mx/jalisco/2014/556983/6/fuera-jefe-policial-de-zapopan-y-otros-16.htm
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Post by borderreiver Mon Nov 03, 2014 12:42 am

halcon,
probably a good reason to never leave home without a US$100 bill about your person, or maybe just a couple of "fifties". Not talking highway tickets and such, but
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Post by dogperson Mon Nov 03, 2014 8:16 pm

So big changes to the police in Chapala. The chief and as many as 15 officers have been canned. All part of the state cleaning up the system. Out with the bad in with the good
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Post by addtocart Tue Nov 04, 2014 8:59 am

borderreiver wrote:halcon,
probably a good reason to never leave home without a US$100 bill about your person, or maybe just a couple of "fifties". Not talking highway tickets and such, but
Why US currency, not pesos?
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Post by Grizzy Tue Nov 04, 2014 11:53 am

dogperson wrote:So big changes to the police in Chapala. The chief and as many as 15 officers have been canned. All part of the state cleaning up the system. Out with the bad in with the good
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Is this fact? Is there a link to a story? Thanks
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Post by brigitte Tue Nov 04, 2014 12:08 pm

Ldy otter published the link from the Informador, no maybe you should read it.


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Post by Trailrunner Tue Nov 04, 2014 2:32 pm

What about the transitos? Were they included in that roundup, or just Muni cops?
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Post by brigitte Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:02 pm

i think they are trying to clean up the police right now. Who knows when it will be the turn of the transitos. A good clean up of these guys would not hurt either..


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Post by brigitte Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:02 pm

dup
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Post by Pedro Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:21 pm

the cleanup of vialidad started in the previous state admin when a special force swooped into vial headquarters. there were firings,demotions,etc. right at the top. it takes a while to go down the line to the bottom feeders.
like i said before,eventually there will be no muni nor vialidad in jalisco. only one state force. they will get better training and higher wages.
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Post by CanuckBob Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:32 pm

I though half the Chapala police force was fired after their involvement with the shooting of those 2 guys they picked up and delivered to the cartel last year.
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Post by Lady Otter Latté Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:38 pm

It worked so well that they are doing it again. Very Happy
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Post by CanuckBob Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:42 pm

I wonder if it is the other half from before or the new half that was just hired.......jaja.
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Post by Lady Otter Latté Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:50 pm

lol!
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Post by Smartalex Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:54 pm

I think they only busted six cops last year following the kidnapping and attempted murder of the two guys. That was as far as they were willing to go at the time. We had a relatively new police commander then. He is one of the cops who failed the new vetting process.


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Post by viajero Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:54 pm

Pedro wrote:
like i said before,eventually there will be no muni nor vialidad in jalisco. only one state force. they will get better training and higher wages.
No vialidad in Jalisco?Can you cite a source for that?
I wouldn't get your hopes up too high about the new state Fuerza Unica,they just busted three of them for extortion and attempting to kill the officers who arrested them,all three of them had passed the new vetting process.

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Post by Pedro Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:14 pm

my source is personally know to me and has worked in this area for this and the previous gov't as well as the previous federal gov't. as a contractor and high ranking official with the state security in it's various forms. you are not known to me or him nor on a need to know list, so you will not get any more info as to source other than what i have said. i said all policing in jalisco will be state as one entity and not necessarily fuerza unica as it now exists.
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Post by brigitte Tue Nov 04, 2014 4:18 pm

This thread is funny keep it up you could have an act worth seeing soon..

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Post by viajero Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:02 pm

Pedro wrote:my source is personally know to me and has worked in this area for this and the previous gov't as well as the previous federal gov't. as a contractor and high ranking official with the state security in it's various forms. you are not known to me or him nor on a need to know list, so you will not get any more info as to source other than what i have said.
Secret sources,high ranking state security officials and " need to know lists"??
In other words you just made that vialidad stuff up.

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Post by Pedro Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:11 pm

viajero wrote:
Pedro wrote:my source is personally know to me and has worked in this area for this and the previous gov't as well as the previous federal gov't. as a contractor and high ranking official with the state security in it's various forms. you are not known to me or him nor on a need to know list, so you will not get any more info as to source other than what i have said.
Secret sources,high ranking state security officials and " need to know lists"??
In other words you just made that vialidad stuff up.
one source person who is no secret to me.the vialidad raid at headquarters was in the news when it happened. you are entitled to believe what you want.perhaps you make stough up since most of the time you don't provide sources? carry on.
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