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Post by CheenaGringo Wed May 14, 2014 7:38 am

More on Dr. Mireles:

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dinformador%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3D9QZ%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dsb&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=es&u=http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/2014/527813/6/otorgan-amparo-indirecto-a-mireles-aun-sin-orden-de-arresto.htm&usg=ALkJrhhWLxmElpL0Ci3vZ_fNlpOIC9YcHw

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Post by Pedro Wed May 14, 2014 7:50 am

CheenaGringo wrote:More on Dr. Mireles:

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dinformador%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3D9QZ%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26channel%3Dsb&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=es&u=http://www.informador.com.mx/mexico/2014/527813/6/otorgan-amparo-indirecto-a-mireles-aun-sin-orden-de-arresto.htm&usg=ALkJrhhWLxmElpL0Ci3vZ_fNlpOIC9YcHw
a very similar story on borderland beat as well.
i wouldn't want to be one of those rural police that smurf "gave up" to the gummint as cannon fodder. i bet he just put on the shirt as a foto op and wouldn't be caught dead [pun intended] going out on patrol with them. that's also in borderland beat.
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Post by Smartalex Wed May 14, 2014 8:46 am

Cheena...Do you know how this amparo thing works? Seems to me that following El Chapo's latest arrest, his attorneys requested an amparo to keep him from getting extradited to the U.S. but were denied since there was no official extradition request. How does this Mireles character get an amparo for an arrest warrant that hasn't been issued? Sounds like the old "Get out of Jail Free" card from Monopoly. I'd ask this Raybourne character how the process works...but that would be like opening a can of snakes.


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Post by Pedro Wed May 14, 2014 9:05 am

Smartalex wrote:Cheena...Do you know how this amparo thing works? Seems to me that following El Chapo's latest arrest, his attorneys requested an amparo to keep him from getting extradited to the U.S. but were denied since there was no official extradition request. How does this Mireles character get an amparo for charges that haven't been filed and for an arrest warrant that may or may not be issued? Sounds like the old "Get out of Jail Free" card from Monopoly. I'd ask this Raybourne character how the process works...but that would be like opening a can of snakes.
why don't you consult a lawyer. all cheena ever knows is how to cut and past. actually, for starters, as jeffy once mentioned try translating more effectively or maybe jeffy might help you to understand what's going on.
the only one that consistently opens cans of snakes and wallows in the latrine of obfuscation is you senor black and white. tell us again what you have won a journalistic award for-SNORK!
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Post by CheenaGringo Wed May 14, 2014 9:58 am

Typical Modus Operandi: don't know the answer yourself, so attack everyone else who may not know. That way, you believe that those of lesser intelligence believe that you know the answer when in fact, the one of lesser intelligence is the one making the attack! Very similar to the yappy Chihuahua who is dumb enough to believe that human or dog would be the least bit impressed.

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Post by Smartalex Wed May 14, 2014 10:52 am

Another mayor got busted for links to organized crime after being rescued from angry townsfolk. From Sinembargo...

El Edil de Aguililla, Michoacán, ingresa a Cefereso en Nayarit; es acusado por nexos con el crimen organizado

http://www.sinembargo.mx/13-05-2014/991395

Google Translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sinembargo.mx%2F13-05-2014%2F991395
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Post by Pedro Wed May 14, 2014 10:54 am

CheenaGringo wrote:Typical Modus Operandi: don't know the answer yourself, so attack everyone else who may not know.  That way, you believe that those of lesser intelligence believe that you know the answer when in fact, the one of lesser intelligence is the one making the attack!  Very similar to the yappy Chihuahua who is dumb enough to believe that human or dog would be the least bit impressed.
i know enough about it,but not enough to make a totally informed statement, which is something you and notsosmartalex have not learned and i suspect, at this late stage in your lives, neither of you will.
oh,and ms thang did seem to get some info from her friends near santa clara del cobre and since you did nothing of the kind from your "friends" can we then believe that they are imaginary or just no longer interested in communicating with you?
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Post by CheenaGringo Wed May 14, 2014 11:36 am

Again with the faulty reading comprehension! Dementia, eyesight or tequila or all of the above. Please feel free to quote one single statement of mine where I attempt to pass off being informed on this subject.

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Post by Smartalex Wed May 14, 2014 11:40 am

Here's more news on Mr. Mireles' amparo. According to this article, the amparo does not cover him for severe crimes, such as murder. I wonder if it covers him for charges of child molestation. From SDPnoticias...

Consigue Mireles amparo contra posible orden de aprehensión

http://www.sdpnoticias.com/estados/2014/05/13/consigue-mireles-amparo-contra-posible-orden-de-aprehension

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http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sdpnoticias.com%2Festados%2F2014%2F05%2F13%2Fconsigue-mireles-amparo-contra-posible-orden-de-aprehension
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Post by Pedro Wed May 14, 2014 11:51 am

CheenaGringo wrote:Again with the faulty reading comprehension!  Dementia, eyesight or tequila or all of the above.  Please feel free to quote one single statement of mine where I attempt to pass off being informed on this subject.
apparently you need clarification. i didn't limit this topic to yer proclivity to "being" informed on A topic and being called out by various and sundry personas other than this yapping chihauhau, for not being so. so what do you know about amparos smart boy and why don't you answer my question about scdc. if you want to just argue with me specifically-take it to the octagon since this topic is interesting and bigger than this petty bullshit that you're so fond of getting into.
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Post by Lady Otter Latté Wed May 14, 2014 12:00 pm

Pot, I would like you to meet Kettle.  Rolling Eyes 
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Post by viajero Wed May 14, 2014 2:34 pm

Alex,there's a big difference between a viejo rabo verde,which mireles is, and a child molester.

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Post by Pedro Wed May 14, 2014 3:39 pm

viajero wrote:Alex,there's a big difference between a viejo rabo verde,which mireles is, and a child molester.
ferget it. the prick alex is on a mission re:doctor mireles, and it makes no difernce to him what trash comes out of his mouth or from his fingers. notice how he is escalating and with this latest has overstepped the bounds of malicious untruth and propaganda even.
i have admitted on many ocassions that i am a prick and bastard,etc. but alex is pure vermine to go down this road which i can say that i have never tread.
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Post by Smartalex Wed May 14, 2014 3:44 pm

viajero wrote:Alex,there's a big difference between a viejo rabo verde,which mireles is, and a child molester.

Yeah...about one or two years of age.The law says the age of consent is 18 and sex with a child under 15 is child molestation. According to some news reports, Mireles girlfriend may have been as young as 16 when they first got together. According to news reports, she was the "mystery woman" in the plane crash last January and was traveling with Mireles because they were already living together. I know I'm being hypocritical and exaggerative here. I like the young girls too. But if I were in Mireles' position, I would have the common sense and common decency to control myself. Once again, it goes to the character of the man.


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Post by viajero Wed May 14, 2014 4:10 pm

Smartalex wrote:
viajero wrote:Alex,there's a big difference between a viejo rabo verde,which mireles is, and a child molester.

Yeah...about one or two years of age.The law says the age of consent is 18 and sex with a child under 15 is child molestation.
I've seen sources that say that the age of consent in Mexico is as low as 12,depending on the state.

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Post by Smartalex Wed May 14, 2014 4:38 pm

viajero wrote:
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viajero wrote:Alex,there's a big difference between a viejo rabo verde,which mireles is, and a child molester.

Yeah...about one or two years of age.The law says the age of consent is 18 and sex with a child under 15 is child molestation.
I've seen sources that say that the age of consent in Mexico is as low as 12,depending on the state.

From Wikipedia...

The age of consent, at which there are no age restrictions on consensual sexual activities (regardless of sexual orientation), is 18. Mexican states have a "primary" age of consent, which may be as low as 12. Sexual conduct with persons below that age is always illegal. Sexual relations between adults and teenagers are a legal gray area, with situational laws subject to interpretation.


I know Jalisco has recently (maybe two years ago) changed the "primary" age to 15 years...don't know if Michoacan has done the same. I will try to search for the current information in Spanish later this evening. You could do that a lot faster than me.
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Post by addtocart Thu May 15, 2014 10:16 am

Pedro wrote:
viajero wrote:
Smartalex wrote:
viajero wrote:Alex,there's a big difference between a viejo rabo verde,which mireles is, and a child molester.

Yeah...about one or two years of age.The law says the age of consent is 18 and sex with a child under 15 is child molestation.
I've seen sources that say that the age of consent in Mexico is as low as 12,depending on the state.
you really are a sick f%&#%&ing bastard . now you are suggesting that she was under 15.
don't know about the quin...... which happens after the 15th bd, do ya, ya f#%$^g low life.
Take it to the Octagon, Pedro. Sheesh.
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Post by CanuckBob Thu May 15, 2014 11:20 am

Pedro wrote:
CheenaGringo wrote:Again with the faulty reading comprehension!  Dementia, eyesight or tequila or all of the above.  Please feel free to quote one single statement of mine where I attempt to pass off being informed on this subject.
apparently you need clarification. i didn't limit this topic to yer proclivity to "being" informed on A topic and being called out by various and sundry personas other than this yapping chihauhau, for not being so. so what do you know about amparos smart boy and why don't you answer my question about scdc. if you want to just argue with me specifically-take it to the octagon since this topic is interesting and bigger than this petty bullshit that you're so fond of  getting into.

Yes Pedro, follow your own advice here and take it to the Octagon......
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Post by Pedro Thu May 15, 2014 2:05 pm

back on topic. a new piece on borderland beat about the new rurales perhaps not being legal and castillo's authority not being legal either.
interesting that smurf did his foto op and has not been heard of or seen since. is he really gonna join the boys with their 45 bullets each in the back of a nissan pickup and go after tuta and his well armed crew-SNORK!
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Post by Smartalex Thu May 15, 2014 9:06 pm

While the cast of characters takes a break and awaits to see if the state attorney general actually does charge Mireles and Platano with murder, let's take a look at the opinion section of the news. From various sources...

Mireles: el narco, Godoy, el amor

http://www.excelsior.com.mx/opinion/jorge-fernandez-menendez/2014/05/12/958764

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.excelsior.com.mx%2Fopinion%2Fjorge-fernandez-menendez%2F2014%2F05%2F12%2F958764

El enigmático doctor Mireles

http://www.cronica.com.mx/notas/2014/832783.html

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cronica.com.mx%2Fnotas%2F2014%2F832783.html

Mireles, el malo

http://www.proceso.com.mx/?p=372255

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.proceso.com.mx%2F%3Fp%3D372255
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Post by Jeff Raybourne Thu May 15, 2014 10:56 pm

So which source are you most in agreement with?

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Post by Lady Otter Latté Thu May 15, 2014 11:01 pm

Thank you, Smartalex, for sharing links to different opinion pieces about this ongoing story. It remains fascinating.
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Post by Jeff Raybourne Thu May 15, 2014 11:06 pm

Just want to say that Google translate is next to worthless.

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Post by Smartalex Thu May 15, 2014 11:26 pm

Jeff Raybourne wrote:So which source are you most in agreement with?

I'll take number two and guess that you're a number three man.
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Post by Jeff Raybourne Thu May 15, 2014 11:38 pm

Smartalex wrote:
Jeff Raybourne wrote:So which source are you most in agreement with?

I'll take number two and guess that you're a number three man.

I've read Proceso for many years and they are usually on the mark. Curiously, you tend to be quite liberal when it comes to many social issues but in this case your thinking is in line with a newspaper belonging to the far right here.

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Post by Smartalex Thu May 15, 2014 11:48 pm

Jeff Raybourne wrote:
Smartalex wrote:
Jeff Raybourne wrote:So which source are you most in agreement with?

I'll take number two and guess that you're a number three man.

I've read Proceso for many years and they are usually on the mark. Curiously, you tend to be quite liberal when it comes to many social issues but in this case your thinking is in line with a newspaper belonging to the far right here.

So what?
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