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Expectations, Mexico 2011

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Post by espíritu del lago Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:41 am

http://ricochet.com/main-feed/What-to-Expect-From-Mexico-in-2011

Interesting take on the situation.
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Post by Solovino Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:32 am

espíritu del lago wrote:http://ricochet.com/main-feed/What-to-Expect-From-Mexico-in-2011

Interesting take on the situation.

Just more blogger BS. Exactly what we can expect from the USA.

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Post by miendo Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:52 am

Looks like he needs to take a look around at his own living space
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Post by espíritu del lago Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:33 am

The filmmaker Luis Estrada has given his native country a bitter film for its anniversary: "El Infierno" (Hell). It is the portrait of a world consisting of nothing but narcos, whores and corruption.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suJTY94dH1I

Wonder if it will be playing locally?
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Post by Solovino Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:37 am

espíritu del lago wrote:The filmmaker Luis Estrada has given his native country a bitter film for its anniversary: "El Infierno" (Hell). It is the portrait of a world consisting of nothing but narcos, whores and corruption.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suJTY94dH1I

Wonder if it will be playing locally?

Are you really as ignorant as you come across as? Of course it will play locally. It was released several months ago. Try paying attention to the world around you instead of getting your "news" off gringo interenet sites..

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Post by espíritu del lago Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:55 am

Where depends are where I am in MX or where some else is in MX?
So where in Ajijic? What time?
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Post by bobnliz Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:07 pm

espíritu del lago wrote:Where depends are where I am in MX or where some else is in MX?
So where in Ajijic? What time?

Solo, do you realize the preceding statements (and I use the term loosely) are totally incomprehensible?

Also... What in Heaven's name is an expection? Do you mean an exception? Or an expectation? By the way, what is your first language? Suspect Lizzy
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Post by Intercasa Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:23 pm

Was a good flick (Infierno), I bought it to show Mexican friends here in the US. Little will change for Mexico in 2011, more single moms with no plans for the future, more killings, more local crime as the locals will have their deported countrymen to compete against, more people wanting to go north to be maids and gardeners, more gringos heading south for cheaper living.

Nothing in Mexico will change unless the people change and until that happens, i.e. Mexicans wanting to fix their country and culture (become a culture to stop ignoring criminal family members and start reporting crimes, start fighting for safety and demanding all the things they flee to the US to demand) and placing education first as well as family planning, it will be all the same with little change as the poor and uneducated masses are growing, feel hopeless and want to be the "man" or "chingon" not looking into the future and families having more kids than they can control / parent.
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Post by Solovino Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:22 pm

bobnliz wrote:
espíritu del lago wrote:Where depends are where I am in MX or where some else is in MX?
So where in Ajijic? What time?

Solo, do you realize the preceding statements (and I use the term loosely) are totally incomprehensible?

Also... What in Heaven's name is an expection? Do you mean an exception? Or an expectation? By the way, what is your first language? Suspect Lizzy

Why are you addressing your post to me? The words you quoted belong to someone else. BTW what is YOUR first language?

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Post by Carry Bean Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:55 am

Intercasa, that sounds like lots of areas in the States.

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Post by espíritu del lago Tue Dec 28, 2010 7:00 am

It is far too common all over the world.

Lizzy, meant expectation.Can't anybody make an innocent typo w/o the language Nazi patrol busting ya. Rolling Eyes
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Post by martygraw Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:29 am

Intercasa wrote:Was a good flick (Infierno), I bought it to show Mexican friends here in the US. Little will change for Mexico in 2011, more single moms with no plans for the future, more killings, more local crime as the locals will have their deported countrymen to compete against, more people wanting to go north to be maids and gardeners, more gringos heading south for cheaper living.

Nothing in Mexico will change unless the people change and until that happens, i.e. Mexicans wanting to fix their country and culture (become a culture to stop ignoring criminal family members and start reporting crimes, start fighting for safety and demanding all the things they flee to the US to demand) and placing education first as well as family planning, it will be all the same with little change as the poor and uneducated masses are growing, feel hopeless and want to be the "man" or "chingon" not looking into the future and families having more kids than they can control / parent.

Spencer, the same could be said about the US.
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Post by Carry Bean Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:48 am

Is there an echo in here? Very Happy

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Post by gringal Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:40 am

I think there must be an echo somewhere.

Whether it's the U.S., Mexico or anywhere else in the world where poverty is rampant and people have more children than they can feed and/or educate, there will be more and more crime and misery. The problem expands yearly, in geometric proportions.
Meanwhile, religions, including Christian, Muslim, and others encourage unlimited reproduction.
As if that weren't bad enough, the population increase is primarily most noticeable in the poorer areas, at the same time it is falling in the first world countries and among educated women everywhere, including Mexico.

if there is a clue, it's being missed. Malthus had it right.
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Post by Lehrer Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:42 am

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Post by gringal Tue Dec 28, 2010 10:50 am

The word "proofreading" is an interesting one. Maybe if wants to offer "proof" of their notions, "reading" would be a good exercise to conduct before "sending".

I find that if I re-read what I've scribbled, a stiff "edit" is in order and the sentences as well as the paragraphs shrink drastically in the process. IMO, this is a courtesy to those who are willing to read it.

I'm not a professional linguist, but am from a long line of teachers and writers. The above is what I learned early, from them.
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Post by Intercasa Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:07 am

True could be the US but in the US people are getting lazier, i.e. now looking for the easy buck as they can't trade stocks or flip homes. Pretty soon the gravy train of taking alot of drugs and going on disability and burning yourself with coffee and suing will be limited.

Americans are going to pay for all the crap and social programs, I'm glad I won't be there and my expenses are low, that's the real secret to living well!
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Post by David Tue Dec 28, 2010 11:28 am

gringal wrote:I think there must be an echo somewhere.

....the population increase is primarily most noticeable in the poorer areas, at the same time it is falling in the first world countries and among educated women everywhere, including Mexico.

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The birthrate in Mexico has been in steady decline for 40 years; currently 19.39/1000 population
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Post by gringal Tue Dec 28, 2010 12:52 pm

You'd never know it from the teenaged moms around here.....but hey, that's the little picture, I know.

Intercasa's post, I find disturbing. The lack of a safety net in Mexico produces some very tragic results. In the U.S., there are liars and cheats, but also people who are getting help because they truly need it. What kind of a society abandons those who are s.o.l. through no fault of their own?
I guess it's one that says: "I've got mine, so screw you." No matter what.

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Post by David Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:15 pm

Truly the land of the "haves" and "have nots."
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Post by Solovino Tue Dec 28, 2010 1:20 pm

David wrote:
gringal wrote:I think there must be an echo somewhere.

....the population increase is primarily most noticeable in the poorer areas, at the same time it is falling in the first world countries and among educated women everywhere, including Mexico.

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The birthrate in Mexico has been in steady decline for 40 years; currently 19.39/1000 population

Correcto. The birth rate here is almost exactly the same as the USA. Since the large majority of the people here are considered poor that doesn't seem to substantiate the statement that the poor are spitting out kid after kid.

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Post by oncesubtle Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:01 pm

gringal wrote: "I've got mine, so screw you."
By golly gringal you've captured the essence of the right and bumper sticker every Hummer's gotta have. cheers
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Post by cane Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:31 pm

Canada birthrate 10.28

U.S. birthrate 13.83

Mex birthrate 19.39

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Post by gringal Tue Dec 28, 2010 3:31 pm

oncesubtle wrote:
gringal wrote: "I've got mine, so screw you."
By golly gringal you've captured the essence of the right and bumper sticker every Hummer's gotta have. cheers

A good bumper sticker should capture the essence of the owner's philosophy. cheers

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Post by Solovino Tue Dec 28, 2010 4:10 pm

cane wrote:Canada birthrate 10.28

U.S. birthrate 13.83

Mex birthrate 19.39

Total fertility rate

Mexico 2.31

USA 2.06

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2127rank.html

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