Lets also not forget to support local businesses

oncesubtle wrote:La Jolla, pronounced La Hoya, is one of the most exclusive beach front communities in southern California (San Diego). It's where Mitt Romney has bought an ocean front home and is putting in a car elevator and other 'improvements' pissing off almost everyone who lives there.

Yep, pissing off people who are jealous of his money and the mansion he has because "he" earned it and they're losers. Some people are always jealous of others who have more. More power to him!!!

johninajijic wrote:

oncesubtle wrote:La Jolla, pronounced La Hoya, is one of the most exclusive beach front communities in southern California (San Diego). It's where Mitt Romney has bought an ocean front home and is putting in a car elevator and other 'improvements' pissing off almost everyone who lives there.

Yep, pissing off people who are jealous of his money and the mansion he has because "he" earned it and they're losers. Some people are always jealous of others who have more. More power to him!!!

John it's his neighbors who are pissed off and if they live in in that neighborhood you can hardly call them losers, at least not from a financial standpoint.

viajero - Sorry about my wording. I'll have to reread my posts more closely before hitting the send button. But as you know many people are jealous of others who are rich.

I think the proper word is "envious."

johninajijic wrote:viajero - Sorry about my wording. I'll have to reread my posts more closely before hitting the send button. But as you know many people are jealous of others who are rich.

No problem John,I think a lot of the ill feelings towards the rich have to do with how many of them made their fortunes and the fact that hard working middle class people are not getting their fair share anymore.

....but it really, really helps to get richer if your family is rich to begin with.

However, although money will not buy happiness, it's much more comfortable to cry your heart out in an air conditioned penthouse than in a mud hut with bugs all over the floor.

Zedinmexico wrote:

E-raq wrote:Back to local business, on TOB (gasp) there is apparently a new Egyptian restaurant in Ajijic, yummmmm hummus, shawarma etc. etc. etc. Going there for suuuuure.
Just around the corner is a new bakery and Deli, hmmmm perhaps a little too convenient. Allegedly outrageously good.
Cafe Cairo and Lilifher ( the bakery/deli)

The Restaurant is on Marcos Castellanos near the church, and the bakery/deli is on Colon near the bank. Now if anyone on here gets there before I do and the blackberry bars are gone I'll know who to blame. I will forgive if there are still some croissants left, just a hint.

Try the 20 pesos fruit drink. I think it has a little bit of ice cream in it and goes very well with the food
at the middle east resturante.

The bakery has wonderful rye bread in nice small sliced loaf for $20 but when its gone it is gone.

Z

Well Zed, that mango milkshake was unbelievable!!! The bakery was pretty much sold out, ni modo, and the hummus was fantastic, voted by us, best on planet.
Will post a review of Cafe Cairo tomorrow, pretty tired this evening. BTW ladies, plenty of eye candy too. Trust the raq.

David wrote:I think the proper word is "envious."

It is David, and is not an attractive character trait. JMHO.

As an emotion (not a trait) perhaps a bit more healthy than "jealousy." Envy causes fewer crimes than jealousy.

David wrote:As an emotion (not a trait) perhaps a bit more healthy than "jealousy." Envy causes fewer crimes than jealousy.

David, I would respectfully disagree. Envy is considered to be, by many, one of the seven deadly sins. Jealousy is a reactive emotion to a loss which may or may not be impending. It is transitory and self limiting, whereas envy is much more destructive and long lasting.

The jealous person wants what they perceive to be theirs and reacts to any threat which may remove the desired object from them. Temporary. They are not motivated by envy, they are motivated by fear of loss.

The envious person sees that someone else has a desired object, such as a ferrari, not only does the envious person feel jealousy towards the owner of the ferrari, he may go so far as to destroy the ferrari so that nobody can have it, if he can't. Where does it stop? With the ferrari, the house, the bank account, a wife, a career? This can be a permanent state of affairs with the envious person, and it can be highly destructive to all concerned. Once again, JMHO.

This would be an excellent topic for the octagon.

johninajijic wrote:

oncesubtle wrote:La Jolla, pronounced La Hoya, is one of the most exclusive beach front communities in southern California (San Diego). It's where Mitt Romney has bought an ocean front home and is putting in a car elevator and other 'improvements' pissing off almost everyone who lives there.

Yep, pissing off people who are jealous of his money and the mansion he has because "he" earned it and they're losers. Some people are always jealous of others who have more. More power to him!!!

Good lord John he didn't earn it he got it from his family. His family is rich. Yes he earned his money later but starting
out with a big chunk of change doesn't make him some rich guy to be proud of. I don't care who has money but he
was not a pull himself up by his own bootstraps kinda guy. I don't as a rule tend to respect rich peoples children very
much. Seen too many bad ones.

Z

E-raq wrote:

Zedinmexico wrote:

E-raq wrote:Back to local business, on TOB (gasp) there is apparently a new Egyptian restaurant in Ajijic, yummmmm hummus, shawarma etc. etc. etc. Going there for suuuuure.
Just around the corner is a new bakery and Deli, hmmmm perhaps a little too convenient. Allegedly outrageously good.
Cafe Cairo and Lilifher ( the bakery/deli)

The Restaurant is on Marcos Castellanos near the church, and the bakery/deli is on Colon near the bank. Now if anyone on here gets there before I do and the blackberry bars are gone I'll know who to blame. I will forgive if there are still some croissants left, just a hint.

Try the 20 pesos fruit drink. I think it has a little bit of ice cream in it and goes very well with the food
at the middle east resturante.

The bakery has wonderful rye bread in nice small sliced loaf for $20 but when its gone it is gone.

Z

Well Zed, that mango milkshake was unbelievable!!! The bakery was pretty much sold out, ni modo, and the hummus was fantastic, voted by us, best on planet.
Will post a review of Cafe Cairo tomorrow, pretty tired this evening. BTW ladies, plenty of eye candy too. Trust the raq.

Didn't that milkshake go extremely well with the food ?

The bakery is pretty much sold out by 11:30 in morning.

Z

E-raq wrote:

David wrote:As an emotion (not a trait) perhaps a bit more healthy than "jealousy." Envy causes fewer crimes than jealousy.

David, I would respectfully disagree. Envy is considered to be, by many, one of the seven deadly sins. Jealousy is a reactive emotion to a loss which may or may not be impending. It is transitory and self limiting, whereas envy is much more destructive and long lasting.

The jealous person wants what they perceive to be theirs and reacts to any threat which may remove the desired object from them. Temporary. They are not motivated by envy, they are motivated by fear of loss.

The envious person sees that someone else has a desired object, such as a ferrari, not only does the envious person feel jealousy towards the owner of the ferrari, he may go so far as to destroy the ferrari so that nobody can have it, if he can't. Where does it stop? With the ferrari, the house, the bank account, a wife, a career? This can be a permanent state of affairs with the envious person, and it can be highly destructive to all concerned. Once again, JMHO.

This would be an excellent topic for the octagon.

I agree that envy is referred to as one of the seven deadly sins. However, to sin is to act. Every reference I can find refers to envy as an emotion. And, of course, to emote is to act. Regardless, both envy and jealousy are not especially healthy!

Or let's stray from Abrahamism values and illustrate it with a principal Buddhist tenent, to desire is to suffer. Either way you pay.

swope wrote:Or let's stray from Abrahamism values and illustrate it with a principal Buddhist tenent, to desire is to suffer. Either way you pay.

To desire, envy, or be jealous of causes suffering. Better to replace it with compassion and loving kindness.

simpsca wrote:...any restaurant is supporting a fairly large Mexican work force and I believe they need our patronage. I know there has not been enough work for all waiters at all the restaurants.

I don't know of any restaurant that doesn't have mostly Mexican employees.

Teetering back slowly towards the topic.... the reason foreigners are allowed to open businesses here is that they CREATE (rather than take away) local jobs.

Where and when is the next swarming?

Merry

David wrote:

E-raq wrote:

David wrote:As an emotion (not a trait) perhaps a bit more healthy than "jealousy." Envy causes fewer crimes than jealousy.

David, I would respectfully disagree. Envy is considered to be, by many, one of the seven deadly sins. Jealousy is a reactive emotion to a loss which may or may not be impending. It is transitory and self limiting, whereas envy is much more destructive and long lasting.

The jealous person wants what they perceive to be theirs and reacts to any threat which may remove the desired object from them. Temporary. They are not motivated by envy, they are motivated by fear of loss.

The envious person sees that someone else has a desired object, such as a ferrari, not only does the envious person feel jealousy towards the owner of the ferrari, he may go so far as to destroy the ferrari so that nobody can have it, if he can't. Where does it stop? With the ferrari, the house, the bank account, a wife, a career? This can be a permanent state of affairs with the envious person, and it can be highly destructive to all concerned. Once again, JMHO.

This would be an excellent topic for the octagon.

I agree that envy is referred to as one of the seven deadly sins. However, to sin is to act. Every reference I can find refers to envy as an emotion. And, of course, to emote is to act. Regardless, both envy and jealousy are not especially healthy!

Seven Deadly Sins... what a load of Crap....
GREED... is Good.... Prime motivational tool....
PRIDE is Good... As in Pride in One's Workmanship
WRATH.... I might hold back fer Personal Use once in a while...

Darned Catholics always wanna take all the fun outta life....


PS:.... Its better to ask forgiveness than permission...

Hey Hocks, just making a point there, when it comes to politics or religion I'm gonzo, and have no opinions whatsoever.


Sooo Greed is good, would you be the new Gordon Gekko?

Pride, in one's work is good stuff, no hay problema.

Wrath, I have been know to indulge on occasion. ;-)

Cheers dude,
Happy hour beckons.