This time in Mazatlan...

Here is an article that talks about comparisons between Mexico, the US and Canada.

http://www.mexicomike.com/safety/safety-UsStateDepartment.html

My comments which follow have nothing to do with the nationality of crime victims in Mazatlan.

From personal experience in digging through Mexican media articles, it appears to me that Mazatlan crime reporting can hardly be a "poster boy" for transparency. If one goes back to all the time when Mazatlan received all the negative press about the pulling of cruise ships, you will find that it now requires a great deal of digging to identify incidents. Since Mazatlan is a resort area, this is to be expected. After all: follow the money! Be it a Canadian, an American or any foreigner, I doubt very highly that they have an informed basis upon which to make an informed decision on whether or not going to Mazatlan is a good idea in the first place and then when you mix having fun and consuming too much alcohol into the equation, proper caution flies out the window.

IMO, rationalizing by comparing crime statistics from any city in the world with Mazatlan does little for the discussion. How about comparing the statistics for other Mexican resort cities? I think that one would find other Mexican resort cities that would probably be a better option for a place to go if one made safety a primary consideration.

Acapulco seems to be the most dangerous "tourist" city lately. Perhaps a comparison of that and say Miami or LA would make a good study.

How many foreigners have been killed in Acapulco?

I wasn't referring to crime against foreigners. I was speaking of violent crime in general happening in comparable tourist destinations.

awana wrote:History has it that the Aztecs, at certain times of the year, used to perform thousands of human sacrifices per day to the gods.
Is that blood lust still in the Mexican descendant genes?

Calgary young woman in Mazatlan gets beaten so badly that most of her face bones are broken.

Why is that vicious brutality now becoming common. It is over and above criminal activity which is of course in every other country?

http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/01/23/calgary-woman-beaten-in-mexico-remains-in-coma/

Last week in my hometown LA they found a severed human head in the hills above Hollywood,somehow they were able identify it,turns out the guys last name was Medellin,could be a clue IMO.
Chris

mexico brazil central america are similar. haiti is worse. & what do you mean about LA? where exactly in LA? when you make comparisons, they have to make sense. where in LA? watts? beverly hills? are you visiting watts for a vacation? miami? where in miami? what section? awana overstates, BUT its not only mexico we can add to the list. these are similar kinds of places, dont pick @ hairs. this member is not blaming ALL mexicans, get over that. the mayan indian culture is very different than ours. i am tired of the self hating white people, its called worshipping the noble savage. you always making them better, & put yourself down. stop w/the race card, its tired. see the point here.

read the article about man attacked, believe every word of it. all makes sense, mexico has always been sleezy. would not surprise me if the cab driver had a violent scam going w/the clinic. there is little or no respect for white americans/canadians. i attest to that fact, look @the scams here. just take it to another level! too bad the couple left the resort! better to have had dinner there. do not know the whole story about the woman (1st attack), that remains to be seen.

well susan you have been outdone by no one else but the US Consulate that warned us against attacks anywhere in the world. Now that completes the place you should not be visiting...Better go back to the safe US quick.
By the way I never read anywhere that the attacker or would be attacker was Maya?? Awana blames the Aztecs and now you ,the Mayas.. anyone else??

brigitte wrote:well susan you have been outdone by no one else but the US Consulate that warned us against attacks anywhere in the world. Now that completes the place you should not be visiting...Better go back to the safe US quick.
By the way I never read anywhere that the attacker or would be attacker was Maya?? Awana blames the Aztecs and now you ,the Mayas.. anyone else??

It could have been one those Huicholes high on peyote.
Chris

CTV NEWSNET UPDATE

Based on closed circuit video, the attacker appears to be a tourist ( read non-mexican ) in his 20's

hockables wrote:CTV NEWSNET UPDATE

Based on closed circuit video, the attacker appears to be a tourist ( read non-mexican ) in his 20's

Ah ha, as suspected, more to this story than meets the eye, as usual. Got a link there for us Hocks?

Here's the link...
http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStories/20120125/surgery-delayed-for-calgary-woman-beaten-in-mexico-120125/

takes a while to load the page. There is a video link shown but I didn't watch it so I don't know if it's THE video. I did read the report.

sorry ... google CTVNEWSNET... it's a top story....
they have a hundred different share programs... I just don't know or use em :)

Unfreakingbelievable. Check this out streetfrogs.

Excerpt:

Nabb's uncle Robert Prosser said Nabb left her hotel room late Thursday night or early Friday and didn't come back.

Prosser added that Nabb's husband didn't know she was gone until about 6 a.m., when he woke up and started looking for her.

The incident has again raised safety concerns about Mexican holidays, and is the latest in a rash of beatings, thefts and deaths involving tourists.

End excerpt.

What passes for a Canadian press is still blaming Mexico.

What reasonable person would assume that a woman out drinking in the middle of the night without her husband, attacked by another tourist, was lily white?

What has happened to what we used to refer to as critical thinking?

we get it about the woman, its old news. hello!!! its a no brainer. notice you wont talk about the man who was attacked. very convenient.

The man was attacked early last year and I don't recall reading anything at all about it at the time so what's the point?

It makes a lot more sense now that they know it was another guest at the hotel. This is apparently a 5-star hotel, they do not let just anybody come in off the street to wander the premises.
My guess is that she encountered some totally inebriated creep who must have tried to grope her. She probably fought back and got beaten up. Terrible and very sad, but it could have happened anywhere.
I hope they catch the creep.

Pete

peteben wrote:It makes a lot more sense now that they know it was another guest at the hotel. This is apparently a 5-star hotel, they do not let just anybody come in off the street to wander the premises.
My guess is that she encountered some totally inebriated creep who must have tried to grope her. She probably fought back and got beaten up. Terrible and very sad, but it could have happened anywhere.
I hope they catch the creep.

Pete

Really?

It's not the Aztec or Maya that are to blame. It's all those rejects from the big, bad NOB cities ending up expating to Mexico to get away from the cold and poutine.

Do you think that this guy was high on Poutine? Try again.

Are awana and susan the same persons with different screen names???

Could be. They both hate everything, everywhere and everyone and both talk trash. (edited) I'm being polite.

John, please keep the insults and name calling in the Octagon.

The plot thickens........

http://news.ca.msn.com/world/mexico-beating-victims-family-insists-husband-innocent

I am glad to see the media is staying on top of this one.

CB: i looked @the links from the canadian papers here on the forum. they had links about both attacks. i did not know the time frames involved. by what you say, the man was attacked some time ago? the woman is recent, that is ovious. in the case of the woman, yes it could be anywhere. did anyone discuss the other attack here? the man? why? AWANA: yes you are correct, but as i have said here may times: its a 2 way street. the so called "rejects" put them selves in the position for crime. (see my profile for my past posts). basically its a dance between guilty white folks w/little self esteem. those mexicans who see an "op". its a dance, everyones happy. most of the dumb people came here in the last 10 or 15 yrs. not everyone is dumb, but like 99%.

Nobody discussed the man because it happened early last year and was just reported lately after this woman was attacked. Why didn't he bring it to the media at the time? Who knows, but there isn't any use in discussing that event now is there?