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Post by simpsca Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:49 am

I just saw this on Chapala.com and thought I would share it here. "My friends went to Jocotopec and the pharmacy was closed permanently. they got no meds and the Dr. said he could no longer prescribe medicines as IMSS was broke. also said if you receive service at IMSS hospital you have to pay now, no longer free."

Does anyone know if this is true? I don't have IMSS but know that many of you do.
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Post by albertrv Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:47 pm

The IMSS problems are of much concern to me hopefully this turns out to be wrong information.
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Post by raqueteer Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:04 pm

Has anyone actually phoned the IMSS to confirm this? These two lakeside clinics have been an ongoing problem for months now. If anyone has the number for the new hospital in Tlajomulco I could call and check there.

In the meantime, people who claimed to have been going there with attorneys etc. have never reported anything back. Why is that do you suppose?

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Post by albertrv Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:24 pm

I'm heading out within the hour to see whats up at Joco myself. I also have to go to the new hospital soon for lab work. I'll report back if they try and charge me. In the past I've gone into the clinic in Joco and the pharmacy is closed with the guy on his lunch.
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Post by raqueteer Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:35 pm

Albert, I have just gotten off the phone with IMSS. This appears to be a miscommunication.
1. There has been no official notice regarding any of this.
2. Some clinics, depending on the time of the month may be out of some medications. In this case go to another local clinic, or the hospital.
3. This is Dia de los muertos, and possibly the farmacia is closed today.

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Post by simpsca Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:20 pm

I hope it is mis-reporting. I did hear some pretty bad things about the Jocotopec IMSS recently from friends who go there and receive medication. They were denied a certain med but received it when he went to the clinic in Guadalajara to see a specialist.

I do not have IMSS so cannot confirm first hand. I'm on two chat groups in Jocotopec so will post any info I get there.
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Post by simpsca Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:24 pm

If you go to the IMSS Jocotopec please read this article on Chapala.com about free legal representation: http://www.chapala.com/webboard/index.php?showtopic=31820
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Post by raqueteer Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:31 pm

simpsca wrote:I hope it is mis-reporting. I did hear some pretty bad things about the Jocotopec IMSS recently from friends who go there and receive medication. They were denied a certain med but received it when he went to the clinic in Guadalajara to see a specialist.

I do not have IMSS so cannot confirm first hand. I'm on two chat groups in Jocotopec so will post any info I get there.

This would appear to confirm the information which I received from An IMSS representative. If you can't get it one place go to another and present your IMSS card.

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Post by raqueteer Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:21 pm

It would appear that this lawsuit is frivolous. All requests for information are met with a failure to respond appropriately. Case closed.

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Post by raqueteer Wed Nov 02, 2011 6:50 pm

Further to my post about the lawsuit being frivolous I came across a fascinating post by a local resident who has the facts. As I suspected this did not pass even the slightest sniff test.

http://groups.google.com/group/jocotepeckers/browse_thread/thread/b1d96cc2faf26382


Hope this answers your questions Albert.

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Post by albertrv Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:09 pm

I was in the Joco IMSS clinic today and here is what I found out.

The Pharmacy is not closed permanently, but instead closed permanently in the mornings opening at 2pm. Permanent was a bad choice of wording I would say. The person, whoever it was, did a bad job of translating the sign on the pharmacy glass.

I then sat down with Jorge in the admin office and there was no denial that there is a problem, although he wouldn't say anything directly against anyone. He confirmed that the lady from Chapala causing all the problems there is now working between Chapala and Jocotepec. She was in Joco from Oct. 16th to the end of the month and is now back in Chapala doing her thing. It is not known when she will be back but I'm suspecting in a couple of weeks and it was confirmed that she would be working between the two clinics. I asked about transferring my IMSS coverage to Tuxcueca and was told that might be a good idea, at least for the time being. I think going under the radar for now is my plan and I'm going to stick to it.
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Post by simpsca Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:01 pm

Good luck Albert - my guess is she has been deployed to cut expenses at the two clinics. Anything outside her radar is a good idea.

Several months ago I took a friend to the IMSS clinic in Chapala and was shocked - huge group of NOBs and Mexicans waiting for service - probably at least 60 people. My previous experience at the Chapala IMSS is when my land lady cut herself badly and I took her to Chapala to get stitched up - we were the only ones there in the middle of the afternoon. It was a 5 room clinic back then and hardly anyone there. My guess is with all the retirees the expenses at the two clinics is way up and she was sent to get them back down again.
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Post by raqueteer Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:33 pm

albertrv wrote:I was in the Joco IMSS clinic today and here is what I found out.

The Pharmacy is not closed permanently, but instead closed permanently in the mornings opening at 2pm. Permanent was a bad choice of wording I would say. The person, whoever it was, did a bad job of translating the sign on the pharmacy glass.

I then sat down with Jorge in the admin office and there was no denial that there is a problem, although he wouldn't say anything directly against anyone. He confirmed that the lady from Chapala causing all the problems there is now working between Chapala and Jocotepec. She was in Joco from Oct. 16th to the end of the month and is now back in Chapala doing her thing. It is not known when she will be back but I'm suspecting in a couple of weeks and it was confirmed that she would be working between the two clinics. I asked about transferring my IMSS coverage to Tuxcueca and was told that might be a good idea, at least for the time being. I think going under the radar for now is my plan and I'm going to stick to it.

Sounds like a very good plan. Mine is to use Tlajomulco in case of emergencies. We only use IMSS for emergencies in any case. As for bad translations and proposed lawsuits, I think we can see just how bad of an idea that would be. Whoever proposed that has more than a few issues, one of which being comprehension.

Good Luck.

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Post by simpsca Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:40 pm

Actually the person who proposed the law suit just deleted all the information they posted. If you click on it the comments the original party made are gone.
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Post by CheenaGringo Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:05 pm

There might be a good lesson here about gathering topics from one message board or forum and then rebroadcasting to others? Especially true when there is no idea of the credibility of the OP. In this particular case, "The Hobbit" has a long history of irrational and delusional posts!

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Post by raqueteer Thu Nov 03, 2011 6:43 pm

Now that's good info Neil, real good information we can work with. Known idiots just cant be given any credibility. A lot of us just didn't know about that. Newbies can be sucked in and believe things which could be dangerous to their well being.

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