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There are 106 foreigners missing and not located in Jalisco

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Post by Plan B Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:04 am

There are 106 foreigners missing and not located in Jalisco
Those who disappear the most in Jalisco
According to the National Registry of Missing and Unlocated Persons, in the current administration, there are 106 people of foreign origin who were missing in Jalisco between December 6, 2018 and December 4, 2023 . Another 54 were located, six of them dead.
People from the United States are the ones who have been victims of disappearance the most with a total of 60 : 35 American people remain unaccounted for, while 25 have already been found, one of them dead.
Honduras is the country that follows with 15 reports of disappearance in the current administration: nine people are still missing while six have already been found, although one of them is deceased. 12 people from Guatemala remain missing throughout the State since December 6, 2018.
From Canada , there are five people still missing; Four others were already found alive and one more already dead. There are five Colombians reported missing, another five have already been located, all alive.
From Peru , there are six missing people, including Wilmer García Guzmán, Juan Carlos Tecsi and Mary Lucero Messco, who disappeared in August 2020, in the municipality of Atotonilco el Alto.
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Post by CanuckBob Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:08 am

This article "implies" that many of the missing people are Canadian and American. They must be all homeless people with no ties or relatives back home cause if this was even close to the truth the NOB media would be all over this. I suspect the vast majority are foreigners from Mexico's southern neighbors.....OR involved in criminal activity.

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Post by kiko Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:23 am

From my experience I would add that some if not many of these "missing" expats want to be missing and for good reason. Color me cynical.
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Post by ferret Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:56 am

That's exactly what went through my mind. IF they could not afford to come in legally, then they came in on a tourist visa, stayed and disappeared from all authorities. It's very easy to do.
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Post by mudgirl Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:51 am

Also when foreigners are missing and then found dead, and the backstory comes out, it seems that quite often these were people who were mixed up with shady characters, or did something stupid they'd never do at home.
"We met this really nice guy at the bar we spent a couple hours chatting to, who invited us back to his place."

Baja, however, seems to be a place where foreigners disappearing and/or being found dead happens a disturbing amount of times. There was a woman, a long-time full-time resident, whose husband had passed away a few years before, so lived alone, who disappeared a couple years ago. Her truck was found burnt out but no body in it, and her body has never been found.
And a couple of long-time male foreigner Baja travelers or residents who also disappeared, their vehicles also found burnt and either being found dead elsewhere, or never found.


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Post by CanuckBob Wed Dec 06, 2023 11:52 am

Yes, far more to this story than is being reported.....surprise, surprise. But of course, explanations don't sell newspapers.

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Post by Dostortas Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:03 pm

The article seems politically motivated, several times it states “during the current state administration”. So what is that…over a 4 year period? How long is the term?

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Post by mudgirl Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:55 pm

ferret wrote:That's exactly what went through my mind. IF they could not afford to come in legally, then they came in on a tourist visa, stayed and disappeared from all authorities. It's very easy to do.

I know a woman like that, although she was never kidnapped and is quite alive. She came in on a tourist visa 20 years ago, is an "I don't want anything to do with any government" type, so had no Canadian ID, either. She got busted at a random immigration stop a couple years ago and deported back to Canada. I know she is back here, but haven't seen or talked to her since she returned, so don't know how she got back in.

Not everyone who doesn't want to be found is because they are up to something nefarious. There are women who flee stalkers or violent ex-partners, or escape with their children from a husband who has been sexually abusing the kids, and which the powers that be won't do anything about, because there is no "proof".

Then there's the serious criminals, like Keith Raniere, leader of the NXIVM cult, who was tracked down to a villa south of Puerto Vallarta, and extradited back to Canada, where he is serving a 120 year sentence for a long list of convictions, including sex trafficking, racketeering, wire fraud conspiracy, and forced labor conspiracy.

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Post by rckrckr Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:49 pm

Keith Raniere was extradited from Mexico to the US and is incarcerated in a federal penitentiary in Arizona.

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Post by mudgirl Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:14 pm

Thanks for the correction. I got confused because NXIVM also operated out of Vancouver, and the woman who was the whisteblower was part of the cult for many years and was Canadian. There is a great multi-part CBC podcast on the whole story called "Escaping NXIVM".
What is unreal is how many otherwise intelligent, educated people fell for his cult.

Now Peter Nygard, the fashion mogul, who got away with sexually abusing hundreds of women and girls all over the world for 50 years, is on trial in Canada, the US, and I think Europe as well. He was living a life of luxury, at his estate in the Bahamas, for years, paying off local officials to look the other way, while he raped hundreds of women and girls. CBC also has a great podcast on that- "Evil by Design".

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