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Post by Zedinmexico on Thu Dec 18, 2014 7:41 am

For us USA folks to go to Cuba you had to get a permit.  Non profit, teacher, Reporter that type of thing. In the past a tourist was told no.  And if you folks don't think that Canada gives the US (and visa versa) all of the travel records you are not paying attention. I am sure the same is true in Mexico. All three countries share all flight information including boarding lists.  I believe the fine was 5000 USD if the government cared. Cuban Americans have different rules thus the confusion about the Miami/Cuba flights.

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Post by David on Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:24 am

It's not illegal for Americans to travel to Cuba, never has been. It is, however, illegal for Americans to SPEND $ in Cuba! BTW, no one has ever been fined for going to Cuba, or spending $ there.
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Post by Pedro on Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:40 am

this thread has proven we are all experts on cuba even those who have never been but know how to google and drink a lot of beer.

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Post by David on Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:10 am

Ha! We drank a lot of great Cuban microbrews at a pub in Havana. Gov't owner and operated but it had 3 great beers, good food, good sercvice and a great Cuban band playing at comida time.
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Post by Pedro on Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:19 am

was it kinda like this?
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Post by viajero on Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:36 am

Pedro wrote:this thread has proven we are all experts on cuba even those who have never been but know how to google and drink a lot of beer.
Some say that the three great triumphs of the Revolution are education,sports and health care..
What do some say are the three great failures of the Revolution?

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Post by David on Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:55 am

Infrastructure, farm output, upward mobility.
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Post by viajero on Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:48 am

David wrote:Infrastructure, farm output, upward mobility.
Close,but no cigar,,,no pun intended.
Second question,in your opinion was Fidel behind the deaths of Camilo Cienfuegos and Che Guevara and if so, why?


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Post by David on Thu Dec 18, 2014 11:51 am

OK Mr. Smarty, what's the answer? IMHO, Fidel was behind the death of Camilo Cienfuegos but not Che.
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Post by viajero on Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:12 pm

David wrote:OK Mr. Smarty, what's the answer?  IMHO, Fidel was behind the death of Camilo Cienfuegos but not Che.
Now we're talking!
IMHO,Fidel wanted complete control and the popularity of Che and Camilo didn't sit well with him,therefore he blew up Camilo's plane and sent Che on a suicide mission to Bolivia where he was executed by another Cuban ,Felix Rodriguez, who was working for the CIA.
The answer to my first question as told to me in joke form by a Cuban immigrant in LA was,,breakfast,lunch and dinner...

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Post by David on Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:16 pm

Ha! That's great!
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Post by Zedinmexico on Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:05 am

I think Che was killed by Castro for being too popular. We may never know for sure but lots of people are saying so.

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Post by Pedro on Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:23 am

che is super popular today. his souvenir stough,pictures, are everywhere,not castro's.
here's his house.
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Post by David on Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:39 am

True, there are more pics of Che and Camilo Cienfuegs than of Fidel. Never the less, there are many of him.
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Post by Pedro on Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:48 am

a little off topic maybe but i wonder what kind of "drink" was served in this bar. did you check it out david?-SNORK!
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Post by CanuckBob on Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:38 am

Looks like you could have gotten a "Golden Shower" there Pedro............. Twisted Evil
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Post by viajero on Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:50 am

I knew that Cuba Libres and Mojitos were popular cocktails in Cuba,what's a "Golden Shower"?

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Post by Jim W on Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:54 am

Same as it is in the USA, Chris....... Blackeye
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Post by CanuckBob on Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:29 am

viajero wrote:I knew that Cuba Libres and Mojitos were popular cocktails in Cuba,what's a "Golden Shower"?

If you need to ask you probably don't want to know however Mr. Google will tell you all about it...........jaja.

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Post by Jim W on Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:36 am

CanuckBob wrote:
viajero wrote:I knew that Cuba Libres and Mojitos were popular cocktails in Cuba,what's a "Golden Shower"?

If you need to ask you probably don't want to know however Mr. Google will tell you all about it...........jaja.

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Post by slainte39 on Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:52 pm

Jim W wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:
viajero wrote:I knew that Cuba Libres and Mojitos were popular cocktails in Cuba,what's a "Golden Shower"?

If you need to ask you probably don't want to know however Mr. Google will tell you all about it...........jaja.

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lol!

Hey!!, you guys.......C. lives in a respectable neighborhood.

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Post by viajero on Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:12 pm

Jim W wrote:Same as it is in the USA, Chris....... Blackeye
I just googled it. Shocked
Jim,I don't know what part the USA you're from but where I'm from,California,we're not into that kind of preverted behaviour.

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Post by Jim W on Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:49 pm

Pretty KINKY Chris! I think that CB's suggestion was the safest..........search Google......way to Splain it! Beer Beer Beer
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Post by hockables on Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:13 pm

Shocked I hope the price of my Habanos don't go up.... right now in Mexico they are 20 - 30% what they would cost in Canada

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Post by Mainecoons on Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:28 pm

Which Habanos are you getting for that price?

Anyway, in Canada, most of the price is probably taxes, no?

As to the OP, I agree with David. This will probably have little impact on Mexico although it may reduce U.S. tourism originating in Cancun going to Cuba.

It was a good move and should have been done years ago. If you want to liberalize a place, embargoes and isolation is not the way to get it done. Compare China to N.K. for a very good demonstration of that fact.

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