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Post by David on Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:31 pm

Can anyone tell much how much the water bills have incresed for Ajijic?
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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Jan 14, 2014 5:50 pm

Last year mine was $3856.00 MXN and this year it was 4067.00 MXN so about 9%.
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Post by MexicoPete on Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:04 pm

Remember that more and more customers are getting water meters. In my neighborhood in Ajijic, some of us received them in 2008.  Several years ago when visiting the SIMAPA offices I was told that they hoped to have water meters installed on most of their customers very soon. (They refused to explain "very soon").

I'm betting that lack of funding is slowing down the process.
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Post by CanuckBob on Tue Jan 14, 2014 6:38 pm

So what was your 2014 bill with the water meter?
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Post by MexicoPete on Tue Jan 14, 2014 7:40 pm

I'm up north so I can not check what the charge is per cubic meter for the first increment. So I do not know. I will be back in several weeks and will be able to check at that time. In my case the 15% discount for early payment, only applied so a small portion of my bill. Therefore my total discount has been between 2 and 3%.

Intercasa posted a different interpretation of the law for early payment than was explained to me by the SIMAPA bookkeepers who tried to charge me for paying early, so once I  get back and visit the Ajijic Simapa office, I shall gather the data and bring it to Intercasa, for his help if necessary .

But I am charged per actual cubic meter consumed, as read on my water meter.  Not a formula based upon the number of toilets, square meters or land etc. that those are charged who do not have water meters.

One thing for sure. With that darn water meter, I try to use as little water as possible. I am much more careful about wasting water than I was before they installed meters in parts of my neighborhood in 2008.
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Post by Kiri on Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:15 am

I can't manage to get on the Simapa site to get the Posted Simapa Rates tier system. Anyone else have better luck?

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Thanks in advance...
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Post by R1100RT on Mon Jan 27, 2014 10:15 am

Kiri wrote:I can't manage to get on the Simapa site to get the Posted Simapa Rates tier system. Anyone else have better luck?

Simapa.gob.mx


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http://www.simapag.gob.mx/

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Post by MexicoPete on Mon Jan 27, 2014 6:53 pm

Good news. Intercasa, of course was correct. I don't know why several years ago I many of us gringo foreign users weren't offered a 15% discount for paying a year in advance, I know what they said to me and others for the 2012 year, but it's not what they are doing this year.

 I am lead to believe. Just like Intercasa said, that should I pay early, before the end of Feb. I will receive a full 15% discount based upon my 2013 bill.

They did not explain how much the rates charged per cubic meter changed between last year and this year.

 And on another matter apparently they have only installed slightly more than 250 meters in the Ajijic Simapa water zone, which isn't that many.
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Post by hickton on Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:55 am

R1100RT wrote:
Kiri wrote:I can't manage to get on the Simapa site to get the Posted Simapa Rates tier system. Anyone else have better luck?

Simapa.gob.mx


Thanks in advance...
http://www.simapag.gob.mx/

i cant get this to work either.. there must be a simple formula to calculate the bill, i have a meter and is in m3. anyone know?

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Post by Pedro on Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:20 am

2013-$1853p
2014-$2102p
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Post by arbon on Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:54 am

Pedro wrote:2013-$1853p
2014-$2102p

¿Do you have to cross the road to pay your water bill?
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Post by arbon on Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:55 am

arbon wrote:
Pedro wrote:2013-$1853p
2014-$2102p

¿Do you have to cross the road to pay your water bill?

just a quote test.
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Post by Mainecoons on Tue Jan 28, 2014 4:52 pm

MexicoPete wrote:I'm up north so I can not check what the charge is per cubic meter for the first increment. So I do not know. I will be back in several weeks and will be able to check at that time. In my case the 15% discount for early payment, only applied so a small portion of my bill. Therefore my total discount has been between 2 and 3%.

Intercasa posted a different interpretation of the law for early payment than was explained to me by the SIMAPA bookkeepers who tried to charge me for paying early, so once I  get back and visit the Ajijic Simapa office, I shall gather the data and bring it to Intercasa, for his help if necessary .

But I am charged per actual cubic meter consumed, as read on my water meter.  Not a formula based upon the number of toilets, square meters or land etc. that those are charged who do not have water meters.

One thing for sure. With that darn water meter, I try to use as little water as possible. I am much more careful about wasting water than I was before they installed meters in parts of my neighborhood in 2008.

So did your water cost go up when you were switched to metering from flat rate? Any guess as to how much percentage wise?

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Post by Gamina on Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:02 pm

Gosh, I wish my water was as cheap when I lived in the States.
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Post by Jerry00 on Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:22 am

Yes but you could drink it

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Post by Zedinmexico on Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:29 am

The water folks are in a catch 22 they need the meters for revenue but don't have the revenue to buy the meters. They have trouble paying for electricity for the pumps. New fearless leader is trying to fix things and modernize but again no money.  For you folks who wish for US water prices don't.  Many places now pay more than 100/mo. Water has gone up dramatically in US.

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Post by MexicoPete on Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:01 am

Mainecoons wrote:
MexicoPete wrote:I'm up north....................................., I try to use as little water as possible. I am much more careful about wasting water than I was before they installed meters in parts of my neighborhood in 2008.

So did your water cost go up when you were switched to metering from flat rate?  Any guess as to how much percentage wise?

Remember this happened in 2008. But because I tried to use as little water as possible, I have no recollection that there was an abnormal increase.   Sorry I can not be more helpful.
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Post by Guest on Wed Jan 29, 2014 8:42 am

There are generally two sources of water, SIMAPA and private wells such as those regulated by fraccs. etc. Contamination with illness causing bacteria is rare in deep wells and, therefore, potable. You should clean your tinacos once a year and throw in some clorox for good measurable. Same if you have an aljibe. If in doubt go to a lab and get details for obtaining a culture from your tap. Then you will know. At least here we can breathe the air.

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Post by slainte39 on Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:58 am

Agreed Oso!  The water from the Simapa or any deep well is OK and potable...the problem, if any, is in the distribution system.
Your advice is spot on.
I have been drinking unfiltered Simapa or municipal water locally for almost 40 years but am familiar with the routing of the tuberia from the well to my house.
PVC is the most resistant to contamination.
The labs by Maskaras clinic will do water tests (sent to Guad.) if you get the proper receptacle.

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Post by Pedro on Wed Jan 29, 2014 10:57 am

the trouble in our barrio is that the pipes are old and the only pvc is in the repairs after one of the frequent breaks. our tap water has a lot of junk and sand in it. you can see it when you fill the dog dish and i have to periodically take the screen filter outta the washing machine.
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Post by CanuckBob on Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:04 am

Perhaps a filtering system would solve your sand problems and save on your plumbing fixtures.
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Post by Pedro on Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:50 am

most of the pipes in this house are from the 40's or 50's and the junk only poses an esthetic visual problem. probly not worth the dineros to do a major filter system. we had state of the art on our well in canada and that was worth about 4 grand. fortunately our plumber was one of my antique customers and we did a trade. my out of pocket cost was under 1000.
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Post by SunshineyDay on Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:34 am

Is a shortage of water a common problem in Riberas? We are thinking about buying below Mirasol? Are there water charges monthly and is it on municipal sewer?

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Post by Grizzy on Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:48 pm

Riberas water can be sandy and silty. My pipe from the street was clogged and it took Simapa 8 days to come over and clear it. A five minute job. This is the first issue I have had with water here and I understand pipes get clogged from various thing. I would ask the home owners about the water and if there is a diltrarion system ask how often they change the filters. I have to do mine monthly.
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Post by Mainecoons on Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:59 pm

Water is not cheap here if you have a full treatment system that brings it up to the standards of both purity and pressure of what is delivered to your house NOB.  Water treatment alone at our house costs $30 per month and our SIMAPA bill has risen to over $800.  That doesn't include the electricity to pump it which I am now providing with a solar system.  I would estimate that the capital cost portion of the solar system required for this function alone would equal at least $3,000 U.S.

I will say that the reliability and cleanliness of the water has improved markedly over the last 6 years.  When we first moved here, the water was off pretty much every day.  Now it is on almost all the time.
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