Immigration Seminar today ANADE

Today I attended a conference on Practical Applications of the New immigration Law at the Corporate Attorneys Bar Association (ANADE) of which I will be their newest member. The keynote speaker was Lic. Doris Gabriela Michel Sinsel with whom we have dealt with various times at immigration in Guadalajara. She spoke on the new law and there was probably an hour of questions and answers between the other attorneys and her going over some of the fine points of application of the new law. While regurgitating everything here might not be productive, I will comment on a few items that were brought out that might be relevant to the broadest audience of readers here.

One important item is that if they find that you left or entered as a tourist while your papers are in process then they will cancel your papers in process so for those who do not want to spend the time or money for a travel letter, beware of being penny wise and pound foolish.

She acknowledged that the new system is more expensive and slower and that there still is a backlog with one company manufacturing cards nationally.

When immigration notifies you that they need an item they will usually give you 10 days to provide them with that item and if you do not do so then your file will be canceled. There are ways to get an extension if the request is provided in the proper format and in writing and timely but then the Federal Administrative Law only allows them 1/2 the original time period maximum for the extension so 5 days, prior they were giving up to 30 days. There are some ways around this and a good attorney will know how to buy time.

GREAT NEWS! They now will be honoring prior year cumulatively on FM2 and FM3 to apply to jump ahead to permanente without financials. This is being applied this week, it might take longer to verify prior years on an FM3 if you have only had your FM2 for lets say a year.


All employers need to register with immigration and they will start requesting to see registrations, even for self employed people so do it now to not have a problem where your failure to do so makes them request you do so within 10 days and of course if it takes longer then you will have your case dismissed and have to regularize paying additional fees and fines.

And last but not least.... the explanation why so many permanent people have been in limbo. So what we were told when we requested a hearing Monday was true that files sent to Guadalajara and stalled will be returned to Chapala for decision BUT there is no way in their computer system to send the files back to Chapala, only receive them for tracking, they hope to work this bug out and resolve all stalled files within 15 days. I brought along the list of our clients who were stalled in the system and their file numbers to have her look into our people tomorrow.

All the prior information is from the attorney for the Guadalajara office. she also commented that one of the heads there quit so they are short staffed. Chapala had a meeting today for the attorneys and facilitators, my associate attorney went, they want complete files in Chapala and will start rejecting incomeplete files so you have been warned, that was pretty much the gist of it.

They are still working out the kinks in the new policy of allowing the local Chapala office to do more including approve permanente applications and doing the fingerprints for them.

Seminar titles in Spanish

El Colegio Asociación Nacional de Abogados de Empresa de Jalisco A.C.

Lineamientos Generales De Trámites Migratorios - Parte Práctica de la Nueva Reforma Migratoria.

As ever, thanks for the info Spencer!

Can you explain what files you are referring to here? "they want complete files in Chapala and will start rejecting incomeplete files so you have been warned"

I took it to mean, "Make sure your application is complete and in order" or your file could easily be tossed/ignored/buried/square-filed, etc. I think by "file" he means whatever your particular solicitation is.

Great post, Intercasa. Thank you!

They are clamping down on incomplete regularization files. That seemed to be the common theme at both meetings today, Chapala and Guadalajara.

I didn't see anybody from Chapala at the seminar in Guadalajara although it was mainly corporate attorneys from the city.

BIG THANK YOU Spencer and congratulations on being admitted to the bar!

Thanks but the bar associations here are only professional clubs, not governmental agencies like in the US. They do promote education and ANADE is the most prestigious and they have some great classes.

Flamingo wrote:BIG THANK YOU Spencer and congratulations on being admitted to the bar!

Entrance doesn't require taking any type of exam. Law students can join this outfit.

Ok I see the licenciado cleared that up and posted while I typed my post.

Intercasa wrote: ANADE is the most prestigious and they have some great classes.

La Barra Mexicana, Colegio de Abogados is considered by most to be the top bar association in the country.

So does this mean our paperwork is still in Chapala?

15/03/2013 El trámite ha sido registrado Delegación Local Rivera de Chapala
15/03/2013 El tramite ha sido asignado Delegación Local Rivera de Chapala
20/03/2013 El trámite ha sido clasificado Delegación Local Rivera de Chapala
20/03/2013 El trámite ha sido trasladado Delegación Local Rivera de Chapala

Really Spencer, thanks for keeping us informed. There'd be a complete vacuum of information without you.

Hensley, your papers were transferred to Guadalajara BUT depending how they program their system they could resolve it there or send it back to Chapala, everybody will know within the next week.

Thanks Spencer as always!!

Fabulous news about being able to combine FM3 and FM2 years!!
We're doing the happy dance!!
(P.S. Hope this means that RVGringo will consider staying in his beloved Mexico!!!)

If it means that RVGringo stays in Mexico, we should all do the happy dance.
Got my fingers crossed.

Agree! Too bad he doesn't post here. . . Miss your posts, RVG!

Does anyone know what the INM is charging those of us who will qualify to go permanente? Apart from the facilitator fees, what will we have to pay INM?

About $4,815 pesos total.

Intercasa wrote:About $4,815 pesos total.

That sounds very reasonable,I qualify for permanente but my dilemma is that I have a 2005 Tacoma with less than 60K miles on it that will no longer be legal should I change my immigration status.Could I sell it to my wife who is Mexican,would she be able to nationalize it without taking it to the border,what are my options?I woudn't mind paying 3 or4 thousand usd to nationalize it, but I would really like to do it without driving to the border.I have to renew next month.
Thanks.

Thanks, Spencer!

Regarding the car, some lawyer friends and I were talking today and I brought up the subject of my car. Their attitude was, just driving it locally, don't worry.
My car is older so this makes more sense for me now until I decide how to go with the car issue or they change the laws or whatever.

Your situation sounds different Viajero.