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Post by Pedro Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:06 pm

...vcr video tape to dvd disc. does anyone know who can do this around here or am i going to have to find someone in guadalajara?
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Post by solajijic Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:19 pm

The LCS video library does this for 50 pesos. Find a friend who is a member.

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Post by Pedro Wed Mar 20, 2013 2:54 pm

i can't picture them having the equipment for editing. such as slow motion in a part of it and then repeating several times and then going back to regular speed. i believe it takes pro studio equipment to do that sort of thing-no?
but thanks for the thought solajijc.
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Post by solajijic Wed Mar 20, 2013 4:02 pm

Pedro, you are welcome but give the guy a try. I would bet if he can't do it he knows who might be able to help.

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Post by Pedro Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:05 pm

there's a thought!
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Post by Axixic Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:42 pm

If you have a working VCR that I can use, I have the connectors (Composite video and RCA audio) and quite a good selection of editing software on my rig.
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Post by Pedro Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:22 pm

it works but i think it's real dirty. do you have one of those cleaners?
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Post by Axixic Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:28 am

No, sorry. I dumped all my VCR stuff a couple of years ago. I am sure someone around here must have head cleaner or a VCR in good shape.
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Post by ComputerGuy Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:02 am

The LCS just copies the tape over to DVD. You'll need some pretty powerful equipment if you want to actually edit in the way you're talking. First, it takes forever to be processed if you're cleaning it up, and that requires some high-end software and a rockin' CPU. Then you can start to edit, and there's a real skillset required these days. Then the rendering... . You'll need a pro or a real geek.
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Post by tictoc Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:44 pm

Pedro wrote:i can't picture them having the equipment for editing. such as slow motion in a part of it and then repeating several times and then going back to regular speed. i believe it takes pro studio equipment to do that sort of thing-no?
but thanks for the thought solajijc.
Short answer is no.
There is linear (old school) and non linier (PC). Linear is easy to slow motion and or repeat. Nonlinear is not to difficult ether. XP pro came with Windows Movie Maker (old tech article) and it works well for the average home user. My advice would be to import your video onto your computer or have it converted to DVD (to stop degradation) and then you can slice your editing pie any way you want and or tri to repair any damage that may have occurred.

HelperGuy wrote:You'll need a pro or a real geek.
I'm no pro ...LOL Very Happy I prefer the term techie but geek works. But honestly it's not that hard.

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Post by Pedro Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:25 pm

jaja! says you. i don't even know what yer talking about. so kin ya do it fer me and fer how much-por favor?
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Post by tictoc Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:51 pm

Sorry me amigo. I'm in the states… For now!!! Or I would for a few beers.

As I said, Your best thing to do right now is get it converted to digital, after that you can do or not do anything. But at least the quality will not go down.

Also just as an FYI, all you need in order to do crude linear editing is a player (that will play slow if you want slow motion) and recorder. You press play on your tape, record on your recorder. (If you want to rewind and slow-motion a part.) Press pause on your recorder, rewind on your player (take it to were you want to start), play in slow motion, and un-pause on the recorder. When the slow clip is done, press pause on the recorder, put the player were you want to play from, hit play on the player and un-pause on the record. When done hit stop on the recorder and then stop on the player. Repeat as necessary. When played back, the end result will look just like you think it should (regular speed, slow speed, regular speed). I used to do freefall videography and this is how we would edit (now it is done on a PC) all be it we did have a fading peace of equipment as well. All of this can also be done on a PC with a lot better quality. It just requires a tad bit of computer skills (not too much). If you are running windows XP pro (or later), do a search for “windows movie maker”. With a little reading I’m sure you could do it. It is really not too hard.

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Post by tictoc Thu Mar 21, 2013 3:04 pm

Also just an FYI for any one else reading this that did not click on the link. The tech specs for the PC they used fopr movie maker were:

TECH SPECS/System Requirements
Platform: PC
Operating System: WinPC XP Pro or Home
Processor: 600MHz
RAM 128MB
Hard Disk 2GB (for video capture)

So by todays standards, it is not a resource intensive application.

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Post by Axixic Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:00 pm

Actually Pedro - if LCS will digitize it to DVD for you I can pull the .mod files off of the DVD and edit them then burn the edited files onto a new DVD.

Just be aware that you cannot get an improvement beyond the VHS quality level - you are stuck with that.
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Post by Pedro Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:12 pm

it was a tape a friend of mine sent from canada and it's kinda zig zaggy but i don't know if it's the tape or my vcr is filthy.
the part i want in slow mo and hopefully clear is the best goal i ever scored in my life and the 6 o'clock cfrn news team was at the rink and videoed it. my friend recorded it over some movie or tv show.
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Post by tictoc Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:18 pm

If I had to guess, I'd say it was the tape. Chances are, it will never look any better than it does today. Playing the tape and letting is sit, both cause loss of quality (playing causes more). You might try and contact the CFRN news and see if it is in there archives. If you have the date and can find a friendly engineer, you might have some luck. Other than that, I would take AXIXIC up on his offer.

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