"Expatriates in drug violence-riddled Mexico: Stay or go?"

CheenaGringo wrote:Disclaimer: Even though this story was viewed in an alcohol fueled haze two nights ago by Jim W, he didn't post it because he didn't wish to appear narcastic. Actually as I am making this post the story indicates that it was updated 3hr25min ago, so apparently I haven't realized Jim's true talents.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-05-23/expatriates-mexico-retirees-drug-violence/55174936/1

"SAN JUAN COSALÁ, Mexico — Pedro Toro Calvario, 15, stepped out for tacos with two cousins one night in April in this village of close-knit families on idyllic Lake Chapala.

He never returned. One of the cousins was found among the dismembered remains of 18 people stuffed into two vehicles abandoned along a highway.

"This is a situation no one ever imagined," says Agustín Vázquez, Pedro's uncle and the owner of a restaurant popular with expatriates. "The psychosis here is incredible."


You are FUCKING with the wrong guy....bring it on ass hole....I will rip your heart out and give it to a friend...will be in //////Albequrqe next week.
Horrific violence between warring drug cartels has been a fact of life in Mexico for years. What is most frightening to Mexicans here, though, is that the victims were selected because they were innocent.

Captured Los Zetas territory boss, Juan Carlos Antonio Mercado, said he ordered the murders to spread fear and reinforce the reputation of his cartel as a syndicate that will stop at nothing to dominate the drug trade.

Such grisly violence against ordinary people seemed unimaginable to the residents of San Juan Cosalá and nearby villages, and has rattled the Americans and others who have moved to the region to spend their lives in the sun.

"It's paradise lost, at least for the short term," says Steven Miller, a retired Air Force major from Las Vegas who has spent most of the past eight years in the Chapala area.

Miller says he's going to move elsewhere in Mexico, while his companion plans on selling her Chapala-area home...................

Jim W wrote:Deleted

CheenaGringo wrote:Interesting that two of Agustin's nephews were kidnapped and no mention that I can remember seeing on any forum?

John: I find it interesting that you chose to highlight a couple of the statements from this article. In comparison to other articles out of the NOB media, I thought this one was pretty even keeled.

Smartalex wrote:Don't drink tequila.

CheenaGringo wrote:Interesting that two of Agustin's nephews were kidnapped and no mention that I can remember seeing on any forum?

John: I find it interesting that you chose to highlight a couple of the statements from this article. In comparison to other articles out of the NOB media, I thought this one was pretty even keeled.

Ms.Thang wrote:

CheenaGringo wrote:Interesting that two of Agustin's nephews were kidnapped and no mention that I can remember seeing on any forum?

John: I find it interesting that you chose to highlight a couple of the statements from this article. In comparison to other articles out of the NOB media, I thought this one was pretty even keeled.

Pedro, Armando and Liliana were the kids that were all related. Their family put their names on a banner across the road in SJC, I think only Liliana was identified as one of the 18 ... I't's probably a good thing that only a fraction of what happens shows up on the boards and even better that most are oblivious.

Drink more Tequila...

johninajijic wrote:

CheenaGringo wrote:Interesting that two of Agustin's nephews were kidnapped and no mention that I can remember seeing on any forum?

John: I find it interesting that you chose to highlight a couple of the statements from this article. In comparison to other articles out of the NOB media, I thought this one was pretty even keeled.

OMG!!! What has happened that this didn't get IMMEDIATELY posted on the forum! It's time for some of you posters who have lived here awhile to realize two things:
1. Parents don't know if their kids are involved in drugs, so they're called innocents.
2. NONE of you know what restaurants are involved with cartels, drugs or money laundering and many in certain areas are.

LaChula wrote:

johninajijic wrote:

CheenaGringo wrote:Interesting that two of Agustin's nephews were kidnapped and no mention that I can remember seeing on any forum?

John: I find it interesting that you chose to highlight a couple of the statements from this article. In comparison to other articles out of the NOB media, I thought this one was pretty even keeled.

OMG!!! What has happened that this didn't get IMMEDIATELY posted on the forum! It's time for some of you posters who have lived here awhile to realize two things:
1. Parents don't know if their kids are involved in drugs, so they're called innocents.
2. NONE of you know what restaurants are involved with cartels, drugs or money laundering and many in certain areas are.

John, you are way off on this! The people who were grabbed were simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. They were not targeted. In the interview with the head of this operation, he was asked how he picked his victims, he said BY CHANCE. WHOEVER WAS AVAILABLE. How come 18-LOS ZETAS HAVE A QUOTA.

I'm not sure John is that far off base... I immediatly thought about the son of one of the larger food-service familys here in Joco. He got chopped up & dumped by El Molino several months back. According to my Mexican friends (business people, not the maid or gardner,) the kid was a spotter for one of the cartels but decided to accept a better offer from a competing cartel...tragic error.

Sideways wrote:Is there a restaurant connection in this mayhem:

The owner of Cinco Potrillos the week before the massacre;
Son of owner of Mario's;
Nephew of owner of Viva Mexico;
Two who were waiters at seafood restaurant in SJC.

Now, GBA says a Joco food service's son.