Why Cheap, Older Drugs That Might Treat COVID Never Get Out of the Lab
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Why Cheap, Older Drugs That Might Treat COVID Never Get Out of the Lab
Why Cheap, Older Drugs That Might Treat COVID Never Get Out of the Lab
"When there's no profit motive, it's tough," Vinetz said. Meanwhile, he's resumed his research into controlling a neglected tropical disease: leptospirosis.
"When there's no profit motive, it's tough," Vinetz said. Meanwhile, he's resumed his research into controlling a neglected tropical disease: leptospirosis.
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Re: Why Cheap, Older Drugs That Might Treat COVID Never Get Out of the Lab
I stocked up on Ivermectin, zinc, antibiotics (I was already taking Vit d3) when nothing else was available. Once the vaccines were available then I went for that.
The problem with older, cheaper drugs is they distract some from following our health leaders. There are thousands of older drugs. Should we waste time in testing them all while the pandemic is raging?
The problem with older, cheaper drugs is they distract some from following our health leaders. There are thousands of older drugs. Should we waste time in testing them all while the pandemic is raging?
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Jreboll wrote:I stocked up on Ivermectin, zinc, antibiotics (I was already taking Vit d3) when nothing else was available. Once the vaccines were available then I went for that.
The problem with older, cheaper drugs is they distract some from following our health leaders. There are thousands of older drugs. Should we waste time in testing them all while the pandemic is raging?
Drugs like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin showed hints of value initially but failed in clinical trials — only to remain in circulation, at least partly because their use symbolized affinity in the culture war for some of President Donald Trump's followers.
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Plan B wrote:Jreboll wrote:I stocked up on Ivermectin, zinc, antibiotics (I was already taking Vit d3) when nothing else was available. Once the vaccines were available then I went for that.
The problem with older, cheaper drugs is they distract some from following our health leaders. There are thousands of older drugs. Should we waste time in testing them all while the pandemic is raging?
Drugs like hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin showed hints of value initially but failed in clinical trials — only to remain in circulation, at least partly because their use symbolized affinity in the culture war for some of President Donald Trump's followers.
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Over 20 countries have adopted ivermectin for COVID-19. The evidence base is much larger and has much lower conflict of interest than typically used to approve drugs.
https://ivmmeta.com/
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That’s a whole lot of nothing. I went through the paper, looked up about 15 references and saw it was a lot of garbage. The following quote sums it all up:
“While many treatments have some level of efficacy, they do not replace vaccines and other measures to avoid infection. Only 24% of ivermectin studies show zero events in the treatment arm. Multiple treatments are typically used in combination, which may be significantly more effective”
“While many treatments have some level of efficacy, they do not replace vaccines and other measures to avoid infection. Only 24% of ivermectin studies show zero events in the treatment arm. Multiple treatments are typically used in combination, which may be significantly more effective”
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This is being distributed in Canada (Quebec) at this time. Apparently it has to be taken within five days of first symptoms.
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Jreboll wrote:That’s a whole lot of nothing. I went through the paper, looked up about 15 references and saw it was a lot of garbage. The following quote sums it all up:
“While many treatments have some level of efficacy, they do not replace vaccines and other measures to avoid infection. Only 24% of ivermectin studies show zero events in the treatment arm. Multiple treatments are typically used in combination, which may be significantly more effective”
Yes, doesn't replace vaccines. I'm not sure what your point is here.
Regarding references and your professional medical opinion about "a lot of garbage" - you seem to have missed a salient point. It is not a 'paper' per se - it is a web site with an overview and index and analysis of over 80 studies/papers, an ongoing, real-time meta analysis. You can disagree with their analysis (they have a feedback link) but hand-waving dismissal isn't a good look
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Re: Why Cheap, Older Drugs That Might Treat COVID Never Get Out of the Lab
Do you still drive a Model T Ford?
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dixonge wrote:Jreboll wrote:That’s a whole lot of nothing. I went through the paper, looked up about 15 references and saw it was a lot of garbage. The following quote sums it all up:
“While many treatments have some level of efficacy, they do not replace vaccines and other measures to avoid infection. Only 24% of ivermectin studies show zero events in the treatment arm. Multiple treatments are typically used in combination, which may be significantly more effective”
Yes, doesn't replace vaccines. I'm not sure what your point is here.
Regarding references and your professional medical opinion about "a lot of garbage" - you seem to have missed a salient point. It is not a 'paper' per se - it is a web site with an overview and index and analysis of over 80 studies/papers, an ongoing, real-time meta analysis. You can disagree with their analysis (they have a feedback link) but hand-waving dismissal isn't a good look
If it’s Covid studies you want here’s another one:
https://c19early.com/
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