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Post by slainte39 Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:04 am

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CanuckBob wrote:Well the US seems to blame Mexico for their drug problem so............
The US has never blamed Mexico for the drug problems there.  They have merely pointed out the fact that nearly all the deadly drugs come either from or through Mexico, with only cursory intervention from the Mexican government.  True or false?




"The US has never blamed Mexico for their drug problem"

If the US (Trump) doesn't blame Mexico, then he shouldn't be asking (has asked) Mexico to "pay" for the wall.  True or false?
I think that was his original intention but that didn't fly too well.

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Post by doc holiday Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:15 am

The drug problem is a USA problem. If stupid Americans choose to buy, there is a marked.
B7y the way, Mexico built a giant solid wall all the way across the frontier with Guatemala. It does not work because money talks and works.

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Post by Trailrunner Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:34 am

ltollefs wrote:Frankly, who cares where the drugs come from, what's of interest are the societal pressures that result in self-destructive drug use (not all recreational drug use if harmful). A happy society doesn't self-medicate to epidemic proportions and to high rates of mortality. Americas public face has always been a lie, only difference is we now get to see it unvarnished and in real time.

Exactly right! American culture has become vulgar and violent.
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Post by CanuckBob Thu Jul 26, 2018 1:01 pm

Kind of like the Roman Empire during it's final years...….

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Post by Smartalex Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:14 pm

doc holiday wrote:  B7y the way, Mexico built a giant solid wall all the way across the frontier with Guatemala.  It does not work because money talks and works.

I'm calling your bullshit, Doc. There is no wall on the Mexico-Guatemala border. The two countries are separated by a river and some chain link fencing. Please refrain from repeating this well-known propaganda fraud on this board.
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Post by Trailrunner Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:26 pm

If there was a wall how could there be thousands of Central American refugees entering and passing theough Mexico doc?
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Post by doc holiday Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:38 pm

Google the wall between Mexico and Guatemala and see for yourself. There are plenty of pictures. It even extends out into the Pacific a bit.
Money and knowing the right people helps. Mexico does not want an immigrant problem, so they let them through Does not make sense to me that is the Mexican thinking.

Any more on ISIS involvement in the Toronto shootings?

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Post by ltollefs Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:41 pm

Eye Dee Ten Tee

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mexico-guatemala-border/

Sometimes it's best not to post when you can't be bothered to research the subject matter.
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Post by doc holiday Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:48 pm

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BORDER BETWEEN MEXICO AND GUATEMALA
Border Between Mexico and Guatemala
Credit: NASA image by Robert Simmon, using Landsat data. Caption by Ellen Gray.
A glance at a traditional map shows neatly printed names and sharp lines dividing countries from one another. When the view switches to satellite imagery, human political boundaries usually disappear. But sometimes the political realities of a country are written into the landscape, and never was that more clear than in this image of the Mexico-Guatemala border

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Post by ltollefs Thu Jul 26, 2018 2:53 pm

Yeah, no, don't see it...
https://www.google.com/maps/@14.5284287,-92.2285732,1638a,35y,5.17h,25.92t/data=!3m1!1e3
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Post by doc holiday Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:02 pm

Google NASA view of wall.
https://visibleearth.nasa.gov/view.php?id=78600





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Post by doc holiday Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:02 pm

Google NASA view of wall.
https://visibleearth.nasa.gov/view.php?id=78600

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Post by Trailrunner Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:11 pm

You're done, doc, give it up. Did it occur to you that some of us may have been down there?
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Post by ferret Thu Jul 26, 2018 3:53 pm

And there is no ISIS involvement in the Toronto shooting. Debunked in the Toronto newspapers. Nice try rabble-rouser.
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Post by ltollefs Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:04 pm

Doc, I followed the link you posted. The word wall doesn't appear a single time and, well, the images therein prove only that someone, somewhere could post poor images to the internet. Here, let me show you...

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Post by MexicoPete Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:19 pm

That wall reaches all the way to the land of no PST, I had no idea. It looks even bigger than the great wall of China.
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Post by NoVaDamer Thu Jul 26, 2018 4:52 pm

All that maps shows, Doc, is the difference in land use between Guatemala and Mexico. The attached text even explains this. Just because the differences are stark does not mean there is a wall. Have you ever driven on a rural road across a state line in the US? Sometimes the road suddenly goes from potholes to smooth pavement. Does not mean there is a wall across the road.
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Post by slainte39 Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:25 pm

Doc sees a wall because he wants to see a wall.
Wishful thinking and dreaming.

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Post by ferret Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:29 pm

He hath done built a wall around the openness of his mind.
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