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Post by spinnerbait Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:47 pm

I am told by local workers that some Lakeside Restaurants steal the tips from employees.
Anyone have any names of restaurants with this policy? I personally want to boycott these establishments

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Post by slainte39 Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:00 pm


The same restaurants where the employees steal inventory, but I don't want to name names.

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Post by Trailrunner Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:53 pm

Me either.
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Post by CanuckBob Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:31 am

On the other hand I know several restaurant And bar employee's who only get paid from the tips. No wage other wise.
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Post by slainte39 Sat Jul 23, 2016 9:48 pm

CanuckBob wrote:On the other hand I know several restaurant And bar employee's who only get paid from the tips. No wage other wise.

They steal the wages but give them the tips?.....They should be boycotted too.
Do you know of anyplace where the employees have to pay the employer to work there?

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Post by CanuckBob Sun Jul 24, 2016 8:08 am

Don't Pemex workers have to "buy" their job?
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Post by David Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:50 am

Some do, some are handed down by a family member who's retiring.
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Post by Trailrunner Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:26 am

Same with teachers.
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Post by Trailrunner Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:32 am

CanuckBob wrote:Don't Pemex workers have to "buy" their job?

Interesting thing I find about Pemex workers, at least where I frequent, there is little turnover. All the same guys at the Pemex on the Libramiento station for years.
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Post by CanuckBob Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:44 am

Probably the same with CFE too.....
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Post by David Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:19 pm

Trailrunner wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:Don't Pemex workers have to "buy" their job?

Interesting thing I find about Pemex workers, at least where I frequent, there is little turnover. All the same guys at the Pemex on the Libramiento station for years.
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All Pemex stations are privately owned. Those guys don't work for Pemex!
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Post by David Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:19 pm

CanuckBob wrote:Probably the same with CFE too.....

Exactamente!
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Post by Trailrunner Sun Jul 24, 2016 12:42 pm

David wrote:
Trailrunner wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:Don't Pemex workers have to "buy" their job?

Interesting thing I find about Pemex workers, at least where I frequent, there is little turnover. All the same guys at the Pemex on the Libramiento station for years.
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All Pemex stations are privately owned. Those guys don't work for Pemex!

Oh, that's right! So, that jefe must treat them well. I've also been told that person is the owner of Lake Taco and the car wash. True?
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Post by David Sun Jul 24, 2016 1:09 pm

Quien sabe?
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Post by slainte39 Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:18 pm

Trailrunner wrote:
David wrote:
Trailrunner wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:Don't Pemex workers have to "buy" their job?

Interesting thing I find about Pemex workers, at least where I frequent, there is little turnover. All the same guys at the Pemex on the Libramiento station for years.
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All Pemex stations are privately owned.  Those guys don't work for Pemex!

Oh, that's right! So, that jefe must treat them well. I've also been told that person is the owner of Lake Taco and the car wash.  True?

The Pemex gasolineras in SAT and La Canacinta AKA  Combustibles del Lago is a Hernandez family enterprise, who are also the developers (Interlago) of many fraccionamientos west of Rancho del Oro and others areas, including Plaza Interlago where the gasolinera is located.
Not the car wash or Lake Taco.....they are tenants.

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Post by slainte39 Sun Jul 24, 2016 2:50 pm

David wrote:Some do, some are handed down by a family member who's retiring.

This happens a lot in the US also, like the Iron Workers Union.  Membership stays in the family.
Some police departments.

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Post by Trailrunner Sun Jul 24, 2016 3:03 pm

Slainte, who is the owner of Lake Taco, do you know? When I asked them they pointed to the Pemex station.
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Post by slainte39 Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:01 am

Trailrunner wrote:Slainte, who is the owner of Lake Taco, do you know? When I asked them they pointed to the Pemex station.

They (Interlago) own the building and land, not the business. I've met and knew the name of the business owner but can't tell you off the top of my head right now. Same with the Vancouver Wings business in between.

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Post by CanuckBob Mon Jul 25, 2016 7:56 am

I think his name is Carlos.
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Post by Trailrunner Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:27 am

If you mean Carlos the manager, he is not the owner - at least he has said no several times. Nor was Fernando the first manager who went back to the states.

Slainte, do you mean the owner of LT is the same as the owner of Van. Wings?
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Post by slainte39 Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:34 am

Trailrunner wrote:If you mean Carlos the manager, he is not the owner - at least he has said no several times. Nor was Fernando the first manager who went back to the states.

Slainte, do you mean the owner of LT is the same as the owner of Van. Wings?

No, just that Interlago (Job and Alejandro Hdz.) own the building.  V. Wings is one of a franchise operation, don't know the SAT franchisee, but probably the same as the franchisee locations in Guad. , as there are several there.
BTW CBob......what are Vancouver wings??  If anyone would know, you should. scratch

In the Mexican business world, one SA (sociedad anonima) will own the land, one will own the structures, one will own the business, one will supply employees, and several other creations by the same person/family/entity, to reduce taxes.  So it's difficult to determine the owners by just researching the "owners", unless you can see the "actas" of the corporations to see who the principals are.
In the case of the gasolinera in SAT, Combustibles del Lago leases the space from Interlago...same people.
I have seen one business owner have as many as 6 SA's for one business.

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Post by CanuckBob Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:14 pm

Vancouver wing's is some sort of chain or franchise. I have seen a few of them in Guadalajara. There are none in Vancouver......
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Post by Trailrunner Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:47 pm

LOL Bob.
Very interesting, Slainte. Thank you. I k.ew it was like that but I couldn't figure all that out.
So. With all those amigos and cuñados involved in one enterprise I can see how easy bad blood can
happen.
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Post by CanuckBob Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:03 pm

And here's everything you want to know about Vancouver Wing's......

http://www.vancouverwings.com/

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Post by BILLBOGEY Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:22 pm

slainte39 wrote:
David wrote:Some do, some are handed down by a family member who's retiring.

This happens a lot in the US also, like the Iron Workers Union.  Membership stays in the family.
Some police departments.
Good observation. My My sister's ex hubby is a retired Union Iron Worker, his son is a current iron worker. Years ago the large brewery union in Saint Louis was mostly family passed on jobs, not so much now. BB

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