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Post by Trailrunner Tue Jan 12, 2016 8:25 am

Off to Guad, will answer later.

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Post by Zedinmexico Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:23 pm

benjji wrote:So, you would be upset if they placed a statue of Mainefool next to Jesus as a result of him saving us all...from growth?


He is not from Maine however his cat is originally a breed from Maine known for its mousing ability. Had one in Oregon that would wait for hours for a mouse he knew was under something. Tend to be huge cats with docile personalities towards people. Trying to be fair to his cat.

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Post by Zedinmexico Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:24 pm

benjji wrote:So, you would be upset if they placed a statue of Mainefool next to Jesus as a result of him saving us all...from growth?


He is not from Maine however his cat is originally a breed from Maine known for its mousing ability.  Had one in Oregon that would wait for hours for a mouse he knew was under something. Tend to be huge cats with docile personalities towards people.  Trying to be fair to his cat and maine. :-)

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Post by Lady Otter Latté Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:34 pm

Maincoons the person certainly does not have a docile personality towards people! Although, he can sit for hours at his computer waiting for some miscreant to break web board rules so he (as moderator 2) can pounce.
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Post by David Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:09 pm

He could learn from his cat.
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Post by gringal Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:19 pm

Maybe a little swing back to the topic?

I've lived in places that were delightful until they were "discovered" and growth exploded without the infrastructure to handle it, especially in the traffic department.
I'm not privy to the plans being made to increase tourism, nor to plans on how that would affect traffic if it doubled in size. Does anyone know of any?
High season is resulting in a snail crawl on the Carreterra, even on weekdays.
The question is: is this area ready for rapid growth? Is anyone making plans to handle it?

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Post by CanuckBob Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:24 pm

Don't worry Gringal, with the state of the economy throughout NA I don't think we will have to worry about "rapid growth" anytime soon...... lol!
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Post by gringal Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:31 pm

CanuckBob wrote:Don't worry Gringal, with the state of the economy throughout NA I don't think we will have to worry about "rapid growth" anytime soon...... lol!

I agree. What's ironic is the amount of hot air being generated over whether we can/cannot do the improbable, let alone the impossible.

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Post by Playaboy Wed Jan 13, 2016 6:08 am

CanuckBob wrote:Don't worry Gringal, with the state of the economy throughout NA I don't think we will have to worry about "rapid growth" anytime soon...... lol!

There are areas of Mexico experiencing rapid growth.  Worldwide investment into Mexico is up.  The Mexican middle class is growing rapidly.  

Do the residents of Chapala want to grow? Or will Chapala squander its potential, continue to underachieve and be left behind?

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Post by Ojalero Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:28 am

CanuckBob wrote:Don't worry Gringal, with the state of the economy throughout NA I don't think we will have to worry about "rapid growth" anytime soon...... lol!

I do not wish to get political, but it is obvious you didn't watch the SOTU address last night, but I will give a pass on that to Canadians. Very Happy
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Post by RVGRINGO Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:46 am

What does it mean when an Air France Airbus 380, over 500 passenger airliner just landed in Mexico City. Were they all hungry for tacos?

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Post by gringal Wed Jan 13, 2016 11:52 am

RVGRINGO wrote:What does it mean when an Air France Airbus 380, over 500 passenger airliner just landed in Mexico City.  Were they all hungry for tacos?

It means that Mexico City is a really interesting destination that has much to offer to tourists.
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Post by hickton Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:03 pm

where they illegal immigrants from syria , north africa? big problem in france and europe..

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Post by RVGRINGO Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:14 pm

Hickton wins! He gets to keep the bait, hook, line and.......sinker.

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Post by CanuckBob Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:29 pm

Ojalero wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:Don't worry Gringal, with the state of the economy throughout NA I don't think we will have to worry about "rapid growth" anytime soon...... lol!

I do not wish to get political, but it is obvious you didn't watch the SOTU address last night, but I will give a pass on that to Canadians. Very Happy

Jaja........I wouldnt watch the SOTU even if I were an American. Some analysts are predicting the Dow to drop 10% - 20% in 2016. The US economy has been propped up by things that can't go on forever. I tend to believe it is going to crash again. Any significant growth in this area has been from expats. The Canadians are already out of the game with the low dollar and I don't believe the Mexicans will be tripping over themselves to move here.
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Post by Zedinmexico Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:08 pm

People have been saying the USD will crash for the last 20 years over and over and frankly it hasn't. The stock market goes up and down and you look at performance over time and it has performed well. Remember 2007??  It goes up it goes down. I look at stocks with a long term perspective. Greece defaulted and the dollar went up and the Euro went down. Fundementals don't seem to matter anymore. Anybody want chinese currency?? I think the truth is people just run to the dollar. I don't get it and still think the Canadian dollar should be doing better against the dollar.  Go Figure. I have given up trying to understand all this. My financial advisor admitted nobody knows shit anymore.

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Post by gringal Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:12 pm

That last sentence is right on target!
lol!

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Post by Playaboy Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:38 pm

CanuckBob wrote:
Ojalero wrote:
CanuckBob wrote:Don't worry Gringal, with the state of the economy throughout NA I don't think we will have to worry about "rapid growth" anytime soon...... lol!

I do not wish to get political, but it is obvious you didn't watch the SOTU address last night, but I will give a pass on that to Canadians. Very Happy

Jaja........I wouldnt watch the SOTU even if I were an American. Some analysts are predicting the Dow to drop 10% - 20% in 2016. The US economy has been propped up by things that can't go on forever. I tend to believe it is going to crash again. Any significant growth in this area has been from expats. The Canadians are already out of the game with the low dollar and I don't believe the Mexicans will be tripping over themselves to move here.

I think the baby boomer expat retiree's are still coming to Mexico.  Just not to Lakeside.  They are going  to area's with more to offer than a small town feeling.  

They are going here;

http://taomexico.com/#

and here

http://ciudadmayakoba.com/en/#inicio

and here

http://www.bahiaprinciperivieramayagolf.com/

That is billions of pesos invested in just this area of Mexico the last couple of years.  There are over 25,000 residences under construction today in those 3 developments.  Chapala has some serious competition for NOB retiree's.

BTW, the beach home I just sold was to a Canadian couple.  Canadians are not out of the game.  We talked about payment in different currencies. I wanted pesos or RCM gold maple leafs.  They decided to pay in USD's.

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Post by gringal Wed Jan 13, 2016 2:21 pm

Just a teeny bit of self-interest there, ummm??

It depends largely on whether they want that kind of weather. That is what the lakeside area has to offer as number 1 attraction. We originally were thinking "coast" before moving to Mexico, but got over that idea fast when we checked out the weather. I, for one, don't want to live in A/C most of the year.
Meanwhile, it's just a "little" chilly and wet in this glorious climate.
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Post by CanuckBob Wed Jan 13, 2016 5:16 pm

IMO....Most (not all) people at the typical retirement age (65 plus) don't give a crap about the beach and certainly don't want the heat and humidity that comes along with year round living there. Yes, they will occasionally visit the beach but not live there. PV is a prime example, most of the expats living FT there are under 65 (or at least all of the ones I have met there). A much younger crowd than Chapala.
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Post by gringal Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:26 pm

CanuckBob wrote:IMO....Most (not all) people at the typical retirement age (65 plus) don't give a crap about the beach and certainly don't want the heat and humidity that comes along with year round living there. Yes, they will occasionally visit the beach but not live there. PV is a prime example, most of the expats living FT there are under 65 (or at least all of the ones I have met there). A much younger crowd than Chapala.

Horrible truth: By the time we're "older", we know that (1) the sun causes alligator skin in time. (2) our bikini beach days are so OVER. (3) who's up to beach volleyball, anyway, let alone surfing or skin diving? That doesn't mean there aren't plenty of other pleasurable things to do, so we enjoy those other things and leave the beaches to the young'uns. Life.
Love it.Very Happy

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Post by Carry Bean Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:42 pm

I can't figure out what the big benefits are to those of us living here full time. Yes, there would be more jobs but probably mostly low level employment paying peanuts. The traffic is a nightmare a lot of the time in season & weekends when the Tapatios come down. And why did those Tapatios buy homes here or rent on the weekends? Because it's NOT like the big city.

We're talking about an area that can't seem to change the bulbs in traffic lights much less time them so it's not a huge jam from San Antonio to far west Ajijic. And all that boom growth will bring litter, crime, noise and God knows what kind of eventos activities.

This area has done fine for centuries & seems to have found its niche. Again, those wanting fast living & bright lights can go to the dozens of places that provide that. I picked this as my elephant burial ground & hope to quietly coast on out. Geeze, you risk a wreck just trying to get through the Super Lake parking lot. Imagine if this turned into Sin City? Please. It will never happen anyway.

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Post by David Wed Jan 13, 2016 7:46 pm

Well said!
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Post by Trailrunner Wed Jan 13, 2016 8:00 pm

Very well said. Agree.
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Post by Lady Otter Latté Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:23 pm

Amen, Carry Bean, amen!

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Post by sir Wed Jan 13, 2016 9:52 pm

So please explain how the floating pipe dreams of Chapala being designated a Pueblo Magico or a UNESCO World Heritage site can be deemed more plausible than casinos or mega resort developments?

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