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Post by Flamingo Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:10 pm

I have a 150+ year old drop leaf table with a broken hinge. It appears to just need a fairly simple repair with a new screw but I have no idea how to do it so the screw won't come out and would rather not ruin the table. Any suggestions?

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Post by mattoleriver Wed Sep 02, 2015 10:51 pm

Put something similar to a matchstick in the screw hole and snap it off. Put the original screw right back in the same hole. The matchstick will work like a shim and hold the screw in place.
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Post by lunateak Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:14 pm

It looks as if a piece of the wood behind the hinge on the left side has been replaced. I'm not sure a screw would hold as is. Definitely drill a starter hole to try and avoid splitting.
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Post by Flamingo Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:28 pm

Thanks, but I really am not going to try this myself. Any ideas of a person I could hire to do this? My ancestors carried this across the US in a covered wagon and I would feel really bad if I ruined it?
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Post by simpsca Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:33 pm

Flamingo I don't know a restorer but if you stop at Barbara's Bazaar I'm sure they can tell you where to find one who works on antiques.
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Post by Luisa Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:54 am

simpsca wrote:Flamingo I don't know a restorer but if you stop at Barbara's Bazaar I'm sure they can tell you where to find one who works on antiques.

This is very good advice.

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Post by hockables Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:07 am

mattoleriver wrote:Put something similar to a matchstick in the screw hole and snap it off. Put the original screw right back in the same hole. The matchstick will work like a shim and hold the screw in place.

thatz how you re-hang doors in the housing racket.... then the next time some SOB boots er in, it comes apart at the hinge or latch instead of possibly breaking the jamb....

good trick to know if you want to get into the slum landlord business ...     Beer


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Post by hockables Thu Sep 03, 2015 10:15 am

Flamingo wrote:Thanks, but I really am not going to try this myself. Any ideas of a person I could hire to do this? My ancestors carried this across the US in a covered wagon and I would feel really bad if I ruined it?

I would suggest a construction maestro... they know local tradespeople and would have a good idea who is best qualified to do your project.... as Lunateak suggested... might need a pilot hole, the possibility of the wood splitting is real... looks like maple...... ( hard as a rock )

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Post by gringal Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:35 am

I sent you a PM.
I'd hesitate to go to Barbara's Bazaar for a true antique restoration, if that's what you're seeking.

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Post by hockables Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:32 pm

Flamingo wrote:I have a 150+ year old drop leaf table with a broken hinge. It appears to just need a fairly simple repair with a new screw but I have no idea how to do it so the screw won't come out and would rather not ruin the table. Any suggestions?

Thanks

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I jus had a thought...

PEDRO

is a retired antiques fella....

might be a horse's ass... but he knows antiques ..... Beer
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Post by viajero Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:55 pm

hockables wrote:quote]

I jus had a thought...

PEDRO

is a retired antiques fella....

might be a horse's ass... but he knows antiques .....        Beer
Flamingo,you can PM him on ToB,he told me that he'd fix it for free.
If you need contact info PM me.

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Post by mattoleriver Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:08 pm

hockables wrote:
Flamingo wrote:I have a 150+ year old drop leaf table with a broken hinge. It appears to just need a fairly simple repair with a new screw but I have no idea how to do it so the screw won't come out and would rather not ruin the table. Any suggestions?

Thanks

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I jus had a thought...

PEDRO

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might be a horse's ass... but he knows antiques .....        Beer
You're the second one to suggest Pedro, I found the message below in my PM on TOB this morning. I find it interesting that Pedro would even want the job considering "...he thinks flamingo and a whole bunch of you are assholes." I wonder what ned small's stake is in this.


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pedro has 50 years experience restoring antiques. he even knows from the picture that it's cherry wood. all the advice so far is shit including going to barbaras bazzar. he will fix it for the table's sake and nothing else because he thinks flamingo and a whole bunch of you are assholes.
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Post by Flamingo Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:18 pm

Thanks guys. He's right, it is cherry and no one ever accused me of being nice.   Twisted Evil And I have a mutual friend who Pedro does like who can contact him for me.
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Post by gringal Thu Sep 03, 2015 2:22 pm

In my own chosen field of endeavor, I've met a whole bunch of egomaniac assholes who I wouldn't choose to hang out with socially.  Nevertheless, some of them are very good at their work, so I've learned to separate the personality from the competence.  Think we could manage that here? Rolling Eyes

Also, I've noticed that when somebody is thrown out of a bar or a forum for unacceptable behavior, they just naturally get pissed and call names at the group that rejected them.  No surprise there.

If Pedro has the chops for doing that kind of repair and is willing to do it reasonably, what's the problem?

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Post by slainte39 Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:13 pm

I think flamingo has already indicated there wouldn't be a problem.
Pedro would be a very good choice as that is certainly his expertise.

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Post by viajero Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:45 pm

slainte39 wrote:
Pedro would be a very good choice as that is certainly his expertise.
I thought that his expertise was being a prick and that antique restoration was just a hobby.. Very Happy

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Post by slainte39 Thu Sep 03, 2015 9:03 pm

Your first job description is his profession and the other is......yes. just a hobby. Very Happy

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Post by solajijic Thu Sep 03, 2015 11:46 pm

My husband knows how to do these fixes and do them well. If Pedro isn't available send me a PM.

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Post by Sherman Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:11 pm

hockables wrote:
Flamingo wrote:Thanks, but I really am not going to try this myself. Any ideas of a person I could hire to do this? My ancestors carried this across the US in a covered wagon and I would feel really bad if I ruined it?

I would suggest a construction maestro...  they know local tradespeople and would have a good idea who is best qualified to do your project.... as Lunateak suggested... might need a pilot hole, the possibility of the wood splitting is real... looks like maple...... ( hard as a rock )

RAYMUNDO BLAS PINEDA  (Speaks English)
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you must have missed some of the 'discussion' on this guy ...
I'd look for some one else.

Barbara's Bazaar sounds like a better starting point.

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Post by hockables Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:40 pm

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hockables wrote:
Flamingo wrote:Thanks, but I really am not going to try this myself. Any ideas of a person I could hire to do this? My ancestors carried this across the US in a covered wagon and I would feel really bad if I ruined it?

I would suggest a construction maestro...  they know local tradespeople and would have a good idea who is best qualified to do your project.... as Lunateak suggested... might need a pilot hole, the possibility of the wood splitting is real... looks like maple...... ( hard as a rock )

RAYMUNDO BLAS PINEDA  (Speaks English)
Tel: 766 1456
045 331 141 5638

you must have missed some of the 'discussion' on this guy ...
I'd look for some one else.

Barbara's Bazaar sounds like a better starting point.

I must have.... enlighten me.... Suspect
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Post by hockables Sat Sep 05, 2015 12:54 am

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hockables wrote:
Flamingo wrote:Thanks, but I really am not going to try this myself. Any ideas of a person I could hire to do this? My ancestors carried this across the US in a covered wagon and I would feel really bad if I ruined it?

I would suggest a construction maestro...  they know local tradespeople and would have a good idea who is best qualified to do your project.... as Lunateak suggested... might need a pilot hole, the possibility of the wood splitting is real... looks like maple...... ( hard as a rock )

RAYMUNDO BLAS PINEDA  (Speaks English)
Tel: 766 1456
045 331 141 5638

you must have missed some of the 'discussion' on this guy ...
I'd look for some one else.

Barbara's Bazaar sounds like a better starting point.

I must have.... enlighten me....   Suspect

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After a little searching, I've found some commentary by you... no discussions...

My experiences are a little different. Sorry things didn't work so well for you.

Raymondo's people built my Pool, Patio, Bodega... he brought in people who did glass work, wrought iron work...
On another occasion he brought in a granite fella who redid all our kitchen and bath countertops...a carpenter who built new cupboards to match existing....
His people reinstalled kitchen cupboards, some new wiring, and plumbed in new alcove for built in dishwasher...
plaster & paint.

I also shopped for my own fixtures ... and went into Guadalajara to choose and purchase granite...

Last project will be to wire and vent microwave over the range... I also purchased the microwave myself  :)

Raymondo didn't spend a lot of time on site... most mornings and usually at the end of the day... and yes he certainly showed up to get paid....

Having said that... I wouldn't have recommended Raymondo if I wasn't pleased with the results.... and his people certainly knew their trade craft... which is the point I attempted to convey.
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Post by Luisa Sat Sep 05, 2015 7:58 am

There is a big difference between a good contractor/tradesman and someone who knows how to treat an antique.

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Post by Sherman Mon Sep 14, 2015 3:07 pm

hockables wrote:
Flamingo wrote:Thanks, but I really am not going to try this myself. Any ideas of a person I could hire to do this? My ancestors carried this across the US in a covered wagon and I would feel really bad if I ruined it?

I would suggest a construction maestro...  they know local tradespeople and would have a good idea who is best qualified to do your project.... as Lunateak suggested... might need a pilot hole, the possibility of the wood splitting is real... looks like maple...... ( hard as a rock )

RAYMUNDO BLAS PINEDA  (Speaks English)
Tel: 766 1456
045 331 141 5638


Hockables .... I'm glad your work went well and you were happy with this guy. That has been the case for others, but not in other situations. In the 'other' situations where there have been problems, big and small, those people remain silent except in very closed discussions.

One of the problems for board posters is that you can account for your experience because it is positive, and you are not making yourself vulnerable or subject to a legal action. Any other discussion that is negative about the quality of the work, serious construction defects that had to be torn out/redone by another contractor, the problems with key workers, including drinking habits, and problems directly with the contractor cannot be addressed. So, it looks like this guy walks on water because that is the only side that can be posted publicly.

Spencer is familiar with the 'non' contract this guy uses, which falls back on a labor complaint as his back up. There's no discussion of structural issues, etc. that have to do with the work quality. This basically leaves the 'customer' in a lose-lose situation if there is a problem.

Someone had suggested 'personal messages' but that is the same as the 'public posts' as far vulnerability to legal action.

S.

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Post by CanuckBob Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:27 pm

I have had problems with him on a pool repair job as well. Nice guy but shitty workers and no management. Showed up to give the quote and once again to collect the money and was shown that he had to do the job all over again as the work fell apart in two days. He brought in two new guys and re-did the whole job. That work lasted about 6 months. Never again.
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Post by Sherman Mon Sep 14, 2015 4:38 pm

CanuckBob wrote:I have had problems with him on a pool repair job as well. Nice guy but shitty workers and no management. Showed up to give the quote and once again to collect the money and was shown that he had to do the job all over again as the work fell apart in two days. He brought in two new guys and re-did the whole job. That work lasted about 6 months. Never again.

thanks for your comment.
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