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Post by Intercasa on Mon Jun 22, 2015 7:46 pm

Social media feeds reporting police action and 2 killed in shooting in downtown Chapala, some reports say by bus station, others by Tepehua
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Post by Rosa Venus on Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:30 pm

I saw a couple of state police trucks racing through La Floresta toward Chapala late this afternoon/early evening around 6:45pm or so. Maybe related, maybe not. After they passed me, an ambulance went screaming by in the opposite direction…...
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Post by Chapalagringa on Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:32 pm

Twitter says they were two brothers, executed, who had committed several robberies in the area. Breaks my heart, they don't look very old and it looks like they were left up in Tepehua area.
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Post by viajero on Mon Jun 22, 2015 10:54 pm

Chapalagringa wrote:Twitter says they were two brothers, executed, who had committed several robberies in the area. 
Maybe they robbed the wrong people.

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Post by Intercasa on Mon Jun 22, 2015 11:41 pm

Maybe crime doesnt pay as much as it used to or as the bible says, the wages sin pays is death
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Post by hickton on Tue Jun 23, 2015 9:45 am

apparently there was a body found thursday last week on the libramiento. any news on that ?

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Post by Pedro on Tue Jun 23, 2015 10:46 am

Chapalagringa wrote:Twitter says they were two brothers, executed, who had committed several robberies in the area.   Breaks my heart, they don't look very old and it looks like they were left up in Tepehua area.  
25 and 35 ain't jovenes and the paper says nothing about them being brothers or the reason for their killing.
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Post by Clueless on Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:23 am

This is often what happens when people lost faith in the "justice" system under which they live.

Usually the view of the justice of the outcome of a dispute depends on which side you are on and the degree of personal loss you have suffered.

And Spencer: Careful when you cite biblical passages. A lot of people would not be happy if Exodus 35:2 were enforced. flag waver
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Post by papa chango on Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:31 am

I just heard about this incident from a good Mexican friend of mine who lives in that neighborhood and had experienced problems having to do with the two young men that were killed.  His work pick up had its battery stolen by these two and the gas syphoned.  My friend was losing sleep because he was trying to watch his truck so to prevent further damage.  Neighbors were also experiencing problems having to do with these two.

My friend says it was the "Mafia" who cleaned out these two guys.  Maybe it's not a good idea to steal from your neighbors.

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Post by viajero on Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:47 am

Wasn't a cops wife murdered in Jocotepec a few days ago?

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Post by Intercasa on Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:29 pm

Lots of dead bodies lately. Drunk drowned in a puddle in Riberas, man assassinated while eating at mercado in Joco, some sort of family problem and a young lady killed in Joco (related to a cop or two), 2 guys yesterday in Chapala killed
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Post by David on Tue Jun 23, 2015 3:53 pm

Clueless wrote: Careful when you cite biblical passages. A lot of people would not be happy if Exodus 35:2 were enforced. flag waver

Enforced by who?  The law was/is for Jews and many of them abide by it.  That's their business and I leave them to it. It's not for me or most of us.
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Post by borderreiver on Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:31 pm

SNAFU.
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Post by Clueless on Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:53 am

This is one (of several) reasons I am for the most part, a recluse.

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Post by David on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:23 am

I think if you're not a criminal you have nothing to fear.
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Post by oncesubtle on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:45 am

Clueless wrote:This is one (of several) reasons I am for the most part, a recluse.


Since you mentioned it, what are the other reasons? I agree with David and suspect you are missing many of life's simple pleasures by being a recluse.

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Post by gringal on Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:47 am

David wrote:I think if you're not a criminal you have nothing to fear.

Agree with you, David.
If I felt I had to live as a recluse due to fear of crime, I'd pack up and leave for somewhere else. Shocked

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Post by CanuckBob on Wed Jun 24, 2015 2:42 pm

Yep, if I had any fear what so ever we would be out of here. Crazy way to live IMO......
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Post by gringal on Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:56 pm

CanuckBob wrote:Yep, if I had any fear what so ever we would be out of here. Crazy way to live IMO......

On the other hand (and there's always an other hand):  People new here may be very disconcerted at the idea of walls, spikes, barred windows and serious locks on their doors.  Some are from places where they have wide picture windows, sliding patio doors and spacious lawns leading to the street.  The culture shock hits them like a cement dump on their heads.  Seeing all those security measures here tells them that there is something to very afraid of, if that level of defense is necessary.  I've read posts by people who came from places where they don't lock their doors and leave the car keys in the ignition.  Not like the place I came from, so that's hard for me to imagine.

Those coming from places where setting the security alarm before leaving the house is automatic, probably don't have the same level of uneasiness.  Those alarm systems were common, even in the suburbs of Orange County, CA, where there was a fairly high burglary level.  We know about the multiple locks on apartment doors in the big cities in the States.

I think that if someone lives in fear here, the best option is to live where they feel safer. Life is too short to feel like that.

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Post by Fastfox on Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:21 pm

David wrote:I think if you're not a criminal you have nothing to fear.

Innocent people do get hurt or killed.
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Post by Jim W on Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:50 pm

Fastfox wrote:
David wrote:I think if you're not a criminal you have nothing to fear.

Innocent people do get hurt or killed.



Same as in the USA
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Post by RVGRINGO on Wed Jun 24, 2015 5:31 pm

Actually, less often than in the USA. All in all, I think Mexico is safer from random crime against people.
I am not bothered by vigilante justice where the police are ineffective. Our neighborhood took care of itself, if necessary, and was very safe day or night.

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Post by Semalu on Wed Jun 24, 2015 9:56 pm

I just rode home with my usual ajijic taxi driver who said the killings were sort of gang related. Not sure if his story is more or less accurate than others. But his story was the two "kids" were members of the local Narco gang. They were warned that to be a member they needed to follow house rules, and that included no ratones allowed (common house or petty robbery). Frankly, I was surprised to hear the local gangs have governance? Anyway, the kids apparently ignored the rules and after ignoring the warnings as well, were taken care of to be a warning to others. Seems a steep sentence for robbery, but that is frontier justice for you I guess, in the absence of any other....

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Post by hockables on Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:01 pm

Semalu wrote:I just rode home with my usual ajijic taxi driver who said the killings were sort of gang related. Not sure if his story is more or less accurate than others. But his story was the two "kids" were members of the local Narco gang. They were warned that to be a member they needed to follow house rules, and that included no ratones allowed (common house or petty robbery). Frankly, I was surprised to hear the local gangs have governance? Anyway, the kids apparently ignored the rules and after ignoring the warnings as well, were taken care of to be a warning to others. Seems a steep sentence for robbery, but that is frontier justice for you I guess, in the absence of any other....


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