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Why GM ignition locks are failing on Cobalt etc etc etc....

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Post by Zedinmexico Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:11 am

Be aware they have found that the big wad of keys attached to your ignition key is causing the car to stall by the key moving and turning off the ignition. This is a very serious problem as it could cause stalling.  GM only wants you to use key only not even the weight of the alarm fob!  So the point is get rid of the big blob of keys as it does cause premature failure of ignition key module on MOST cars and if you have one of the recalled GM (lots and lots of them) cars only use the ignition key alone to keep the weight off the ignition switch.  Not a bad idea all of us to keep the weight off the ignition switch on any car. For
you folks with GM cars check out the recall and see if you are one of the winners!  If you are, remove ALL weight including the alarm fob from your ignition key until switch is replaced which will take some time.  I also suggest removing weight from all ignition keys as designs are close to each other and Mechanics have also known that weight on the ignition switch shortens its life! Below is a list of cars from GM that are affected.     Beware new fixed part has same part number as failing part which is unusual and GM is being accused of hiding the situation. Normally a new improved part would have a new number so this smells a little bit to me. GM has two shifts working to make new parts.  Should take a month for parts to be made available in US.  Talk to Mexican GM dealer to see if they will fix car here or does US car have to go to US.  We don't know for now. I guess they will fix them here to get it done but who knows.

All 2005-2007 Chevrolet Cobalt and Pontiac G5, 2003-2007 Saturn Ion, 2006-2007 Chevrolet HHR, 2005-2006 Pontiac Pursuit (Canada), 2006-2007 Pontiac Solstice and 2007 Saturn Sky vehicles are involved in the recall.

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Post by espíritu del lago Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:32 am

They knew it would only cost around a dollar to fix and that was prior to roll out.
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Post by gvprod Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:19 am

that's why you buy a car with a button to start....like Nissan
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Post by gvprod Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:20 am

one more reason why GM sucks big time...
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Post by Zedinmexico Sun Mar 30, 2014 12:47 pm

Now be fair guys yes GM sucks but actually almost all the old management that did this is gone. New management is disclosing and embarrassed. GM is much better run than it used to be.

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Post by CheenaGringo Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:17 pm

"GM CEO admits recall tardy, won't pledge liability":

"DETROIT — General Motors CEO Mary Barra said on Tuesday that the automaker didn't move fast enough on the ignition switch fault that triggered the recall of 1.62 million cars worldwide and is blamed for 12 deaths in 31 crashes.

But Barra, in her first interview since the February recall, wouldn't promise that GM will accept responsibility for deaths, injuries and damage that happened before big car company went through government-supervised bankruptcy reorganization in 2009...........

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/03/18/gm-ceo-barra-president-reuss-recalls-safety/6557865/

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Post by CheenaGringo Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:38 pm

Read the following article and believe in them or feel sorry for them:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/03/30/gm-ignition-switches-recall-congressional-report/7085919/

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Post by Zedinmexico Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:46 am

Here is a NYT article in the Seattle Times  on the technical problem and what is going on inside the ignition switch. I have never seen a major
coporation make a new part without changing the part number or adding an -1 or A to the part number.  No doubt in my opinion that OLDGM
knew exactly what it was doing and NEWGM will get the blame. Remember NEWGM is not OLDGM and is probably not liable for much of this as
legally OLDGM which still exists has all the bad liabilities. Not sure they will get away with this from a PR standpoint but the law is pretty clear.
NEWGM can't win, if they accept the liability they could be sued by the stockholders for lowering the value of the stock and if they don't PR hell coming up for them.  NEWGM can't win this battle IMHO and OLDGM has no assets left worth a hoot. The following talks about the part and how an engineer figured out what was going on.  The part is a Delphi part not a GM part.  Does GM still own Delphi???  Not sure anymore.


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http://seattletimes.com/html/nationworld/2023258751_cobaltengineerxml.html

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Post by gvprod Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:05 am

don't worry, Obama will bail them out
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Post by CheenaGringo Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:08 am

Well look at that - apparently there is also an OLD and a NEW Delphi with some bankruptcies mixed in too:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delphi_Automotive

You can bet that customers will be made whole!

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Post by Zedinmexico Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:57 pm

This just gets better and better.

So we have NEWGM and OLDGM and we have NEWDELPHI and OLDDELPHI. Now if they manage to force NEWGM to accept liability that should be OLDGM can NEWGM force it to NEWDELPHI? Maybe too big to fail becomes too big to ignore for NEWGM and they will pay regardless of settlement and court rulings. Ahh the Lawyers are smacking lips over this one if it happens. Its such an interesting situation.

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Post by CheenaGringo Mon Mar 31, 2014 6:24 pm

On a more positive note, the Transportation Dept. finally (years late):
"WASHINGTON — Years late, the Transportation Department issued a rule Monday that will require rearview technology in many new vehicles — an effort to reduce deaths and serious injuries caused by backup accidents.

The final rule issued by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration will require new vehicles under 10,000 pounds and built beginning May 1, 2018, to meet the new rear-visibility standards. The rule includes buses and trucks; motorcycles and trailers are exempt.........

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/nhtsa-to-require-rearview-cameras-in-new-vehicles/2014/03/31/2b989d40-b8f7-11e3-80de-2ff8801f27af_story.html?wpisrc=nl_eve

At the present time, 44% of US manufactured vehicles offer this feature as standard equipment and another 27% offer as an option.

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Post by CheenaGringo Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:19 pm

And today's negative news re: NEWGM:
"GM recalls 1.3M vehicles to fix power steering":

http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/03/31/gm-recall-steering/7127117/

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Post by espíritu del lago Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:39 am

What do you expect from Government Moters?
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Post by Mainecoons Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:20 am

We have a rear camera on our Honda CRV and it is excellent and really needed since this vehicle has poor rear visibility. It is really the only serious flaw it has. Less important is that it is a bit anemic under the hood. Otherwise, it is the best little compact hauler out there, over 70 cubic feet of almost flat floor cargo space when the rear seats are down.
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Post by casi nada Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:54 am

espíritu del lago wrote:What do you expect from Government Moters?
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What do you expect from a guy who can't spell motors and doesn't seem to realize that the problems that are being discussed happened at a time when the Govt. had absolutely no involvement in GM?

''GM has been criticized for its handling of the ignition-switch problem, which the company recently admitted it first learned about in 2001.''

Come out of the bubble. You might like it.

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