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Post by cypress on Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:15 pm

When people sell their vehicle it is common practice for the owner to sign the vehicle over to the new owner on the back of the original facture. So the cars registration slip will still show the first owner. So when it is time (January/February) for new tags the new owners will go to the car registration place, show ID and have the registration changed over to themselves. Is that correct? In the time between the selling and the new registration in January how would the authorities trace the ownership of a vehicle?

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Post by Ezzie on Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:38 pm

Incorrect. At the time of purchase, it is best practice for the buyer and seller to go together to the vehicle registration office and do the title transfer. It is also good practice to pay the money to seller at that time IF there are no outstanding fines and unpaid annual renewal fees due.

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Post by cypress on Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:12 pm

Yet so many people do it without going to a vehicle registration office. Why? Cost? Once when I sold one we got together with the buyer at a lawyer's office and did it-nothing more-no registration office. Maybe the buyer then goes to a registration office. I've heard that in some states in the US they do the same as here-just sign it over on the back of the original bill of purchase.

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Post by RVGRINGO on Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:13 pm

True, Ezzie.  If the seller will not go to the recaudadora with you, do not buy his car.  He has a reason that he does not want to go.

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Post by cypress on Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:47 am

But many transfer without going to the recaudadora (at least not right away). How does that work out?

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Post by Trailrunner on Fri Apr 19, 2019 8:00 am

Often not well for the buyer. RVG is right.
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Post by cypress on Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:24 am

Trailrunner wrote:Often not well for the buyer. RVG is right.
It apparently worked out well for the lady who bought my other vehicle without us going to the recaudadura and a lawyer handled it! I can't ask the lady who bought that car as it might be too difficult for her to answer.

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Post by Trailrunner on Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:33 am

Cypress, do whatever you want! You asked, we responded.
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Post by RVGRINGO on Fri Apr 19, 2019 10:49 am

I would guess that a lawyer was used because the participants had no Spanish. A power of attorney was probably signed, and the lawyer did everything at the recaudadora, and the lady now owns the car quite legally.

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Post by ferret on Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:28 am

And I think you would have guessed correctly RV. A lawyer is a good way to do it but not necessary. The car is in your name and with the attached responsibility UNTIL it properly changes hands at the Registry Office. Why anyone would WAIT to do this is beyond understanding.
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Post by RVGRINGO on Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:26 pm

Oops!


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Post by RVGRINGO on Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:28 pm

Have you ever noticed how terrified an expat, with no Spanish, can be of a simple clerk behind a counter? They are sometimes just incapable of handling smiles and sign language, fearing that they will be "taken to the cleaners", arrested, deported and forced to walk to the border in chains. I only mean those who refer to it as, "the boarder", and who can't manage to find the recaudadora's sign, without a 'facilitator'.

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Post by Trailrunner on Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:39 pm

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Post by gringal on Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:45 pm

RVGRINGO wrote:Have you ever noticed how terrified an expat, with no Spanish, can be of a simple clerk behind a counter?  They are sometimes just incapable of handling smiles and sign language, fearing that they will be "taken to the cleaners", arrested, deported and forced to walk to the border in chains.  I only mean those who refer to it as, "the boarder", and who can't manage to find the recaudadora's sign, without a 'facilitator'.

Little bit of exaggeration there, RV? lol!

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Post by RVGRINGO on Fri Apr 19, 2019 2:47 pm

I was going to use hyperbole, but didn't want to confuse anyone.

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Post by cypress on Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:10 pm

ferret wrote:And I think you would have guessed correctly RV. A lawyer is a good way to do it but not necessary. The car is in your name and with the attached responsibility UNTIL it properly changes hands at the Registry Office. Why anyone would WAIT to do this is beyond understanding.
Why wait? Because the new owners are busy out of the country. I now have it set up (by a lawyer) to be resolved when they return.

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Post by cypress on Fri Apr 19, 2019 3:11 pm

RVGRINGO wrote:I would guess that a lawyer was used because the participants had no Spanish. A power of attorney was probably signed, and the lawyer did everything at the recaudadora, and the lady now owns the car quite legally.  
That could well be true.

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Post by cypress on Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:26 am

The vehicle will be based in Jocotepec but I guess it doesn't matter if it gets registered in Chapala or Jocotepec.

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Post by RVGRINGO on Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:30 am

It does not matter, as both are in Jalisco.

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