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Post by WDBarr on Fri Aug 07, 2015 5:03 pm

This giant moth landed on my hummingbird feeder today (Aug 7) and has been there for over an hour. I think it's a Black Witch which in Mexico and most Central American countries is a harbinger of death. I was shocked for 2 reasons. The first is that most moths, especially of this size, are night feeders. Secondly, this morning when I took out my trash, there were 2 police cars 2 houses west of me and a gringo woman telling the police "I think I'm having a heart attack."

Can anyone confirm my identification of this moth?

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Post by ltollefs on Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:33 pm

WDBarr wrote:This giant moth landed on my hummingbird feeder today (Aug 7) and has been there for over an hour. I think it's a Black Witch which in Mexico and most Central American countries is a harbinger of death. I was shocked for 2 reasons. The first is that most moths, especially of this size, are night feeders. Secondly, this morning when I took out my trash, there were 2 police cars 2 houses west of me and a gringo woman telling the police "I think I'm having a heart attack."

Can anyone confirm my identification of this moth?

"harbinger of death"? The batrees in my Ouija board are dead, let me check my taro cards.
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Post by hockables on Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:42 pm

harbinger of death... maybe if you ate it Beer bon appetit
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Post by zenwoodle on Fri Aug 07, 2015 7:52 pm

I'll have some of whatever you are smoking. Beer Beer
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Post by slainte39 on Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:02 pm

Black Witch???
In Irish they are called "banshees" .....not sure about English or Spanish.
....and they usually are right on the money.

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Post by viajero on Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:23 pm

They're called tecolotitos or mariposas negras and the superstition about them being harbingers of death is real.


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Post by hockables on Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:26 pm

viajero wrote:They're called tecolotitos here and the superstition about them being harbingers of death is real.

Nuthin a Big Fly Swatter couldn't fix ...... Beer
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Post by viajero on Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:37 pm

hockables wrote:
viajero wrote:They're called tecolotitos here and the superstition about them being harbingers of death is real.

Nuthin a Big Fly Swatter couldn't fix    ......      Beer
A couple of years ago there was one on our terraza and nobody died...

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Post by gringomojado on Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:41 pm

They are Chingado Mariposas Negras

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Post by viajero on Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:53 pm

Cuando el tecolote canta,muere el indio,no sera cierto pero sucede.

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Post by WDBarr on Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:01 pm

All I'm saying is that in the years I have been here none of these mariposas negras have ever landed on one of my hummingbird feeders and stayed for hours. Coincidence or not that the lady down the block thought she was having a heart attack...I don't know. Itollefs...your Ouija board was obviously not "hecho en Mexico" and maybe you should be careful about laughing at me. My 90 year old Mexicana vecino crossed herself when I showed it to her. As for Slainte39 and Viajero thank you for not trying to use droll humor...except for your flyswatter comment Viajero!

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Post by viajero on Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:08 pm

WDBarr wrote:.except for your flyswatter comment Viajero!
I never said anything about flyswatters,I was just confirming what you said about the superstition..

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Post by WDBarr on Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:17 pm

So sorry Viajero...that was Hockables!!!

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Post by viajero on Fri Aug 07, 2015 9:42 pm

No problem WDBarr.
You might want to light a veladora de la Virgen just to be on the safe side..

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Post by WDBarr on Fri Aug 07, 2015 10:09 pm

Si, es tambien, gracias!

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Post by zenwoodle on Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:37 pm

It's a moth. Not Donald Trump.
Now that's a harbinger of death. Beer Beer Beer
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Post by gringomojado on Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:43 am

Palomita=Moth Also Palomilla

Mariposa= Butterfly
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Post by ltollefs on Sat Aug 08, 2015 8:50 am

WDBarr wrote: My 90 year old Mexicana vecino crossed herself when I showed it to her.

My gosh, that changes, well, nothing at all, but have a nice day.

“The way to deal with superstition is not to be polite to it, but to tackle it with all arms, and so rout it, cripple it, and make it forever infamous and ridiculous. Is it, perchance, cherished by persons who should know better? Then their folly should be brought out into the light of day, and exhibited there in all its hideousness until they flee from it, hiding their heads in shame."

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Post by CanuckBob on Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:16 am

My cat is the harbinger of death when it catches those moths. So is my ceiling fan.
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Post by slainte39 on Sat Aug 08, 2015 1:12 pm

gringomojado wrote:Palomita=Moth Also Palomilla

Mariposa= Butterfly


So that's the crunchy things in my popcorn. More protein I guess.

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Post by Rosa Venus on Sun Aug 09, 2015 10:56 pm

WDBarr wrote:All I'm saying is that in the years I have been here none of these mariposas negras have ever landed on one of my hummingbird feeders and stayed for hours.

How many years have you been here? I'm surprised you haven't seen them before. They can be HUGE, and certainly sound like aircraft when they're fluttering around your head, or up against a window nearby.

Other than that, I think I'll take the superstition and some of the Spanish Language teachings in this thread for what they are worth.  Very Happy
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Post by brigitte on Sun Aug 09, 2015 11:25 pm

I once mistook one for a bird. It was flying high up in the house trying to get out through the skylights and I could not believe the size of that butterfly, it was a little spooky it was so big.

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Post by Kiri on Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:40 am

Mothman....?
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Post by sparks on Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:08 am

mariposa nocturna


palomita = popcorn here
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Post by Semalu on Mon Aug 10, 2015 9:34 am

Well this one is new to me, Should I be worried that I see them all the time and have for many years? Seriously?
Just for fun, I Googled Mexican superstitions and they have more than one doozer on the books, as do all cultures. Here is just one example:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/alejandroalba/superstitions-mexicans-believe#.cs4O7a78N2

I guess this is why they have that other saying "superstition is revolution against evolution".

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